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Old Nov 7, 2003, 12:31 pm   #59 (permalink) (top)
RebelWithanAK
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Geoff, my reply to that post about minorities "doing poorly" in business ventures was in response to your interpretation of the numbers, based on the study you were quoting. You responded that you didn't believe it was entirely the fault of bias and discrimination. Now, I think I have a better view of the model you believe to be the case. But I still have some caveats:</span><blockquote><span class="smallfont">Quote:</span><hr size="1" />Originally Posted by ("Geoff332")
1. There was no sense of even awareness of the white business man to the black person's business idea.
2. The business man was not employing anyone, therefore there were no disciminatory hiring practices. It is more likely that the new business owner would be employing the businessman, and the black person would not be a candidate for that job.
3. There was no sense of any contractual relationship, meaning that there was no demonstrable relationship that could be shown to be discriminatory.
4. There was no mention of any employees. Most business ideas don't have anyone employed, particularly when you are developing a business plan or proof of concept.
<hr size="1" /></blockquote><span class='postcolor'>You're talking about speculation, not a venture. Usually ventures involve going out and starting a business. Yes, in the planning phases, where nothing is nailed down, Black people ain't gonna hire White consultants and vice versa, because nothing is nailed down. I fail to see the point of the matter - if you look there and draw the dotted line to the statistical conclusion, you can only reach the presumption that minorities and women are less knowledgable in business. Which isn't a conclusion so much as yet another question.

Now, if you go a step behind or a step ahead, back to business school and ahead to actually running a business, I think there is more conclusive evidence.


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