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Quote by: navyrkh Have any of you ever wondered why you have actual feelings against the suggestion of an Intelligent Designer?

The only problem I have with it is when believers in the superstition of ID try to promote it as the equivilent of actual science.

Quote by: navyrkh Though you won't admit it, partly because you don't understand why you do, inside of you something is angered when people talk about God.

Call me crazy, but I suspect it has something to do with millions of believers in God defining me as the scum of the earth, the "moral equivilent of murderers, rapists, child molesters and communists", immoral by definition and deserving of suffering unspeakable agony for all eternity simply because I don't believe in God.

"No, I don't know that atheists should be considered as citizens, nor should they be considered patriots. This is one nation under God." -- President George H.W. Bush

But you know me...overly sensitive.

Quote by: navyrkh You easily grab on to any "evidence" that says God doesn't exist or that we came about randomly so that your life has no purpose or CONSEQUENCES.

This is 'THE BIG LIE' believers tell each other about atheists. To the contrary, my moral compass works just fine, thank you very much, and I absolutely believe that life has purpose and consequences. It's just that the purpose isn't to simply believe in Gawd.

Quote by: navyrkh I don't think anyone is evil because they choose not to think or believe in something. I am the worst sinner.

LOL!! Yeah, right. But you're correct... you're a liar, which definitely makes you a sinner.

Quote by: navyrkh But someone had to take your place as payment to satisfy justice, that's what Jesus did on the cross.

Y'know how sometimes you can look at a simple word for too long, and suddenly it just stops making sense. It's spelling looks wrong, it sounds wrong, it just looks meaningless. Well, this is how I've always felt every time folks turned teary eyed and blissful when some preacher intoned how, "for God so loved us that he sacrificed his only begotten Son so that we might live with him forever."

LOL!! That has got to be the DUMBEST, most illogical, most convoluted rationalization for historic events that folks have ever come up with. It's ALMOST as absurd as the Holy Trinity. Say what?!?!

Quote by: navyrkh The greatest evidence that you are right with God is that you HATE sin, not people,

Yeah, I just love how this idea allows the religious to cruelly discriminate against, for instance, gay people, while telling themselves they actually LOVE gay people. They just hate the SIN of actually being gay. It's a form of 'Tough Love', I guess... We LOVE you, but unfortunately because we LOVE you so much, we can't allow you to participate as an equal in your own society because you keep committing the sin of being what you were born as and over which you have no control.

Quote by: Lindsay I'm not saying that time has anything to do with light, I'm just pointing out that in Genesis, light was called "day". That was how the term "day" was used. I don't know why it was used that way, but I just wanted to point out that's how it was used - it wasn't used to mean a 24 hour period.

What else can it mean?

"Genesis -- 3: And God said, Let there be light: and there was light.
4: And God saw the light, that it was good: and God divided the light from the darkness.
5: And God called the light Day, and the darkness he called Night. And the evening and the morning were the first day.

14: And God said, Let there be lights in the firmament of the heaven to divide the day from the night; and let them be for signs, and for seasons, and for days, and years:
15: And let them be for lights in the firmament of the heaven to give light upon the earth: and it was so.
16: And God made two great lights; the greater light to rule the day, and the lesser light to rule the night: he made the stars also.
17: And God set them in the firmament of the heaven to give light upon the earth,
18: And to rule over the day and over the night, and to divide the light from the darkness: and God saw that it was good.
19: And the evening and the morning were the fourth day."

Isherwood's point was that the writers of Genesis were so ignorant of basic science that they didn't understand that Day and Night were caused by the Sun shining on the earth as it spun on it's axis. One would think that an Omnipotent, Omniscient God would not allow the chroniclers of His word to make such a silly muckup of how Creation actually took place.

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