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Old Mar 20, 2008, 01:09 am   #2056 (permalink) (top)
Technosoul
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I'm not aware that there have been any such artifacts found. You would have to tell us about them. Without knowing more, however, I would have to say that any such artifacts are fake or incorrectly interpreted since dinosaurs, except for birds, died out about 65 million years ago.
No such footprints have ever been found. Some creationists have been taken in by carvings made and sold to tourists during the depression. Most notably, Mr. Carl Baugh and Mr. Don Patton (Both have awarded themselves bogus Ph.D. degrees) tout the Burdick print as somehow being that of a giant. Any fool who has ever seen a human footprint can easily see that the Burdick print is a fake. Moreover, the claimed tracks in the bed of the Paluxy River all turned out to be dinosaur tracks. Not even Baugh continues to claim that a single one of his original "man tracks" is human. Instead, he now claims to find "man tracks" inside the tracks of dinosaurs. If you are gullible enough, you might fall for that. I've seen the tracks.
I'm not sure what you mean by 'fully "evolved" man'. But no matter, even an "incompletely evolved" man living with dinosaurs would discredit the theory of evolution.
I'm not sure what artifacts have to do with dinosaurs. How does a man made object show us anything about dinosaurs? Why are archaeologists studying dinosaurs? What does the study of human life and culture from the past have to do with dinosaurs?
What a load! They lied to you and you believed it.
Is it actually necessary to debunk such an idea? Even if it were true, what does it show about dinosaurs or the age of humans?
Again, I'm not sure what a 'fully "evolved" human' is. Creationists don't even seem to be able to decide which hominid fossils are human and which are not. The same creationist often has a difficult time deciding. For example, in 1992 Paul S. Taylor declared that both Java Man and Peking Man were apes. In 1995 he claimed that Java Man was an ape while Peking Man had somehow become human. By 1996, both Java Man and Peking Man were human. He didn't indicate if they were "fully evolved" humans or not.

Similarly, Duane Gish claimed in 1979 that ER 1470 was human but in 1985 said that it was an ape. So, perhaps you can understand my confusion about what you might mean when you talk about "fully evolved" humans. I wasn't aware that there was a condition for any organism that made it "fully evolved."

Also, you seem to scorn religion by trying to reduce the science of biology to a matter of belief without evidence. Such is the nature of religion. I can assure you that biology is not my faith any more than physics or geology are.
They aren't really what they are claimed to be. Guys like Baugh and Patton depend on the gullible faithful.
Why? What does it have to do with dinosaurs or evolution?
What reality is that? Wouldn't it be nice if you actually took a science course and made an effort to learn?
Can you give me some examples? Are geology and physics also religions?
I'm sure that isn't the reason that Halofan48 'disregards' your so called 'evidence'. I'm sure that he actually has some science education and isn't gullible enough to fall for such claims. How open minded of you to claim that evolution is a religion, and as such, tries to force the "evidence." Isn't that exactly what you are doing? Forcing invented evidence in the name of your religion of creationism?
I thought I would rejoin this long winded debate. Gallo and I debated this same topic a long time ago. I even provided links to those pottery items that showed dinos and humans living together ... under a ufo that was in the sky. The hoax was quickly disproven as being real artifects by other qualified investigators. But yet, the hoax lives on as if it is protected by some sort of unseen shield. Which is the strong need to believe it. I also mentioned the foot prints next to dino prints. I do not recall the right words but it is possible to imprint such slabs at different ages in history, or they might be another hoax. A lot of knowledgable people join in our debate and frankly, I lost. Gallo won. And those debates are still located somewhere here at Volconvo, it is a shame he must continue to re-hash the same-o same-o rebuttles. I think that thread had to do with the Creationist Musem.
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