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Old Mar 19, 2008, 05:08 am   #19 (permalink) (top)
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The lord works in mysterious ways or so the saying goes.
Translation, You have no clue what your god will or can do.

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The bible both included stories of prayers answered and prayers apparently ignored. Did Job HAVE to go through losing everything and his wife turned to salt? The list goes on. It's pretty well made clear by example that prayer does not always equal a response.

A response wouldn't make sense in the context of heaven and hell either. If God responded to every prayer in a way that everyone could see then what sane person would doubt God's existence anyways.
And here in lies the problem with belief in his existence.... An All Loving God would want more, not less of his creations to reach heaven, not hell. His current system (what ever that may be) will produce more people going to hell, so this leads me to believe he is not all loving. If he's All Powerful, he could make this world any way he wanted that would make getting to heaven more believeable and still leave us with free will to accept or reject his offer and an All Knowing god would know that the majority of todays people will not make it to heaven under todays conditions and with his power, its about time he reassures us that he exists just like he use to do 2000 to 3500 years ago. None of this is going on at the moment, therefore this leaves me with no rational reason to believe he exists as described in the Bible or the Quran.

You see, according to your holy book, he use to let his existence be known all the time, unfortunately we can't verify this with anything other than this old book that was compiled by political means 300+ years after the claim of a messiah was made. Some pieces of this history of god was left in, some left out for reasons really only known by the compilers. How is this any different than us taking the next 300 years of news clips of the Virgin Mary sitings in Cheese sandwiches, wood panelings and highway over passes compiling these news clips and claiming these are "The Truth" and inspired videos of god message" We can throw in videos of David Koresh who claimed to be the second coming of Christ 300 years from now. After we do this, we should have 1000 years of peace before the crap hits the fan, right?
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