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Quote by: Xyzer Sonart, have you "flipped your Jibbet"?
Posting charts with the Dow Jones Industrial average as evidence of climate change? |
Good grief, Matt. How do I possibly debate this guy without pointing out how monumentally stupid he's being??? Honest to gawd, it's like he's being intentionally dense.
No Xyzer, the Dow Jones graph was not meant to be evidence of climate change. It's meant to show that within complex systems, there are often changes, even when the overall trend is moving in a decidedly dominant direction. The graph showed a stock market that was steadily climbing, and the fact of occasional dips didn't change that.
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Quote by: Xyzer You avoid the question with an inanity. Hey most experts agree the global climate has warmed(a small amount) over the last century. |
No, most experts agree that global climate has warmed SIGNIFICANTLY and is dramatically inconsistant to what should be happening normally. The agree that it's a dramatic anomoly, caused by the explosion of human population and our exploding capacity to pollute the planet.
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Quote by: Xyzer They agree it has gradually warmed since the last Ice Age thousands of years ago, The question is why? |
About 10,000 years ago, and the 'Why' has been explained to you, in depth, again and again, by the most knowledgable people on the planet.
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Quote by: Xyzer When informed that several earlier proponents of the theory of man made causes have recanted you explode into another round of unrelated drivel which includes insults as well as unrelated references? |
And when informed by the foremost scientific institutions in the United States and the world of the reality of global warming, and by formerly skeptical conservative leaders, thinkers and opinion makers who have been convinced of the reality of global warming, you simply cover your ears and blather. You're like a four year old who, when explained an answer to a question, simply keeps asking "Why?" over and over again, not because you want to know -- you have no interest whatsoever in knowing -- but because you know it will drive people crazy.
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Quote by: Xyzer Grow up and answer the question. |
I did.
One more time,
very slowly... it appears to be part of a continuous cycle of rising and falling temperatures. If you actually LOOKED at the chart I posted, you would see what I'm referring to. Here's a chart showing a variety of temperature estimates for the last 1,000 years... Pick the colored graph of your choice and look very, very carefully now, Xyzer. Temperatures will go UP for 30 or 40 years, then go DOWN for 30 or 40 years. UP, then DOWN, yet the OVERALL TREND is a slow, steady
decrease in temperatures, as
should be happening after the sharp climb out of the last Ice Age 10,000 years ago.
You do see all this, right? We're not going too fast for you?
UP, then DOWN, then UP, then DOWN, but always slightly lower with each cycle... Why? I don't really know, but science seems to have accepted it as part of normal climate shifts.
UNTIL, of course, about 200 years ago -- which COINCIDENTLY is the same time as the explosion in human population and global industrialization -- when temperatures went
WAY UP, then down a little, the
WAY UP EVEN MORE, then down a teeny bit, the WAY UP AGAIN. I've already predicted that temperatures may once again go "down a little", before going
WAY UP AGAIN.
And science is saying that without a doubt, this is NOT NORMAL and can ONLY be explained by human activity.
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