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Old Mar 16, 2008, 09:11 pm   #163 (permalink) (top)
Technosoul
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I don't believe in putting extra taxes on cigarettes UNLESS the only thing those taxes go for are non-religious programs that help people quit cigarettes, and even then, I don't think they should be nearly what they are now. The cost of cigarettes is outrageous now. Raising the price via outrageous taxes should not be used as an attempt at getting people to quit.

What I DO believe in though is either a strong ventilation standard for all public indoor places that want to allow smoking (which if the ventilation standard was stringent enough, could allow for people to smoke in office buildings as well and not make their coworkers breathe smoke or smell like an ashtray when they get home), OR what has been happening in a number of states--ban indoor smoking in public places altogether. I'd prefer the former than the latter because it allows more freedom, but not very many people seem to like the idea for some reason.

Before they had the smoking in public places ban here in Washington state, I had thought about going to some of the places I thought were cool with an incense stick and burning it in the bar to make a statement. I didn't feel like getting my *ss kicked, so I didn't, but I sure thought about it a lot--if they would have asked me "put that out. It stinks." I would have replied, "if you do the same."

So I could get some extra cash, last night I was the inside doorman (for the upstairs area) to a bar at a native American reservation called the Cedarwood Dome. Because it's on a reservation, they allow smoking. I had forgotten this and failed to remove my cellphone and wear my metal-framed glasses instead of my plastic ones. Big mistake. Once I got home, to get the smell out of my glasses frames, I had to soak them in bleach water for 20 minutes, something that isn't so great for the frames because over time it can make plastic brittle. Then there was the issue of the phone, especially the rubbery case to it--it reeked the most. Even after a 3 hour soak in bleach water, it still smells like cigarette smoke.

I tell you, not even incense do that to things in that much time. If you buy something at a headshop (you know what I mean) where they have 1,000 incense sticks just sitting around and a few burning at all times the store is open, in a week or so the smell from the incense is gone. This is simply not the case with cigarette smell--it's very strange. I've also never seen yellowed/browned walls from incense--candles maybe that were poorly made or made from poor materials, but not incense.

Anyway, my biggest complaint about cigarettes is the smell. If you hang around a smoker indoors while they smoke, ANYONE that you are around until you take a long shower and soak anything plastic you're wearing in bleach water will think you're a smoker too. I don't like people to think I do something as stupid as smoke cigarettes. Yes, I called it STUPID. Smoking is by far the MOST STUPID addictive product people can do. Heroin and meth are the worst FOR someone, but at least those actually get people high, they don't just take care of a nicotene fit. It doesn't seem worth it for someone to be addicted to something that doesn't even do very much, and what makes it worse is that cigarette smokers usually can hardly get by with 2 hours without having a cigarette--most would have one less than every 10 minutes if their workplace allowed it. Can you think of any other addictive substance that people expect to or wish they could do while working besides cigarettes? Oh yeah--caffeine, but caffeinated beverages don't make other people stink and don't turn things yellow--the only people that are affected by caffeine are the ones ingesting it.

So--in a nutshell, I think smoking is STUPID. And hell no I don't think cigarettes should be illegal.
Acturally no help (money wise) is offered to help someone to quit smoking. Nearly none of the medical health insurance polices pay for such treatments or drug store products. Medical does not cover treatments, it only pays doctors to warn us not to smoke. If smoking is such a big problem you would think they would pay for such preventions, before smokers or others get some deadly disease. But no. They apparently do not think it's a big enough threat to worry about. Where as the same insurance companies pay for all kinds of treatments and durgs to help people loose weight (so they do not get health problems and raise the payout amounts of the insurance company). Is that not odd?

The reason is it is cheaper to hang up a no smoking sign then it is to install a air conditioner system (filtering).

You have a very sensitive nose. But I guess smell is an issue. Even I, the smoker, do like to smell cigarettes smoldering in the ash tray when they reach the end, and that is even worse if the filter gets burnt. Letting cigarette smoldering in an ash tray really stinks, ether smoke it or put it out, that is what I think. Of course they make ashtrays that are battery operated that filter that smoke and remove the oder. But they have a very high price tag on them.

They have cigarettes at the store I go to that have been treated so they generate perfumed smells, like roses, strawberry, and so forth. But they come in "girlish" looking packages. But smokers should try them out. Problem is they cost more then the other brands, which are ready overpriced. But for a moderate smoker who only smokes once in a while, worth it as he she does not have to deal with as many complants.

If you could reduce your resentment about cigarette oder then soon your nose would not be as sensitive, and it would not irriate you. Withdrawing form your addiction to the need to find things to resent is just as easy as quiting an addiction to cigarettes. But people get high on resenting things, and getting real mad can really get you high on the horse. but anger costs nothing, and being high from anger addiction seems better then what cigarettes seem of offer. Being high on anger is rightious alright.

Aha! ever think about that?

My purpose for smoking has nothing to do with getting high. I use it to buffer the effects of stress. Stress is a deadly health risk.

But tobacco is not sold by the medical industry, they get not profit form cigarette sales. No one ever made it a prescription drug. No "medical tobacco" products as with pot.

Now without that buffer people get all stressed out and must buy all the products sold at the drug store that claim to combat being up-tight and stressed out, etc. So of course, the medical industry wants to get rid of cigarettes because it is bad for their business. Or they must learn to meditate to relax, along with a need to take a anger-management class. They are loosing a ton of money on everyone who still smokes.

And please do not say "oh no, another conspiracy theory". It is not some wild eyed theory, it is fact founded in reality.
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