Mar 13, 2008, 12:52 pm
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Quote by: grandpa No, anarchism is not entirely the same concept state-communists have (just to be clear, there are state communists and libertarian communists). State communists advocate the "dictatorship of the proletariat," a view anarchists tend to oppose very, very strongly.
I must make another point: None of this is intended to be my solution. I'm not trying to play dictator here, nor is it my job to come up with a blueprint to solve every potential problem that comes along. The fact anyone thinks so indicates the great lack of understanding of basic libertarian principles.
An egalitarian society is hated by authoritarians and of interest to anarchists. That is clear. Anarchism is NOT the same concept (or set of concepts) that constitutional republics advocate. Their ideal is subordination.
As for people not cooperating, it depends on the issue and the people you are talking about. In an authoritarian society, people certainly won't embody anarchist principles. They'll carry out orders, cooperating either because they're under the legal blackmail system of wages or because they've been brainwashed. Peoples' need to access food and shelter are obvious things authorities can take advantage of, and they do. The big and even not-so-big banks can dominate resources otherwise available relatively freely, and we'll have to pay them for this subordination.
Consider the words of Josiah Charles Stamp, the British civil servant, industrialist, economist, statistician, director of the Bank of England and chairman of the London Midland and Scottish Railway: Banking was conceived in iniquity and was born in sin. The bankers own the earth. Take it away from them, but leave them the power to create money, and with the flick of the pen they will create enough deposits to buy it back again. However, take it away from them, and all the great fortunes like mine will disappear and they ought to disappear, for this would be a happier and better world to live in. But, if you wish to remain the slaves of bankers and pay the cost of your own slavery, let them continue to create money .
Consider this:
What is the source of the problem here? Authority! It's standard, and I feel no guilt or shame whatsoever about locating the main source of the problem.
Grandpa h. | I did not say the concepts were the same, I said the aims were the same. Let's not confuse the issue. Communism, in it's initial conception, figured that the interests of the workers would bind them in harmonious lock-step towards an end where management would not be necessary. Just substitutute the word "citizen" for "worker" and the words "ruling elite" for "management" and you have, at core, the same ideal. The problems are still the same. And it does not matter that you did not invent anarchism, you are advocating it. Defend what you advocate. More later on your other points.
All I see when I look down, something jumpin' on the ground, Scratchin' dirt, cluckin' in the barnyard -
Tell me, could that be you?
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