[Winter wind]

Quote by: itsdarts You said that faith makes sense while you are experiencing it.... wouldn't that be "knowledge"? You have your evidence (experience) thus making it knowledge (of some sorts). This is no longer faith.

Well maybe not. I care little about what it's called. Only what it is, and I have described it best I can.

The next question you should ask yourself is... How do I know what I'm experiencing is what I think it is? Basically now you have to get into the epistomology of what you experienced. You should also ask why others can't/won't/don't experience what you do, or why they experience something differently and come up with a different answer?

because each experience is personal and individualized.

Hindus' experience leads them to believe its one of their 8 or 9 gods, not your god. Why?Are they nuts? Are they wrong? If so, how do you know its not their god? If not, then are you nuts?

Actually Hindus believe in one God. Look up Brahman. But that is beside the point.

This is what separates me from most Christians is that I think they are different names for the same thing. I mean, other then ascetic differences, these "gods" seem to have a similar message for humanity. I'm just Christian because I think Jesus was more then human. Rather that He was divine. But I think that is the only major difference and that wasn't a huge part of my experience. God was.

Oh and I'm already nuts so...

Faith, the irrational belief in something without empirical evidence or LOGICAL proof. :)

Says the atheist. You say potato...

I say the steadfast belief of God's promise of a better world.

This lacks not really in logic (not for me. It would lack in logic for someone else). However it does lack in empirical evidence, and I'm ok with that. That would make it boring.

I'm only vearing off topic because after 14 pages, no one has been able to logically justify the suffering in the world and be able to back it up to the point of convincing me. I still say there is no evidence for the Abrahamic God and thats why there is all the suffering, its just the way things are, period.

Ah the actual debate. While I may say otherwise while I'm talking with freefallife, the real answer to most of his/her questions is "I don't know".
Another thing that makes me an odd Christian is there are many things about my faith that I say could be wrong. In fact, they most likely are. For me faith is an educated guess.