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Old Mar 10, 2008, 07:16 pm   #56 (permalink) (top)
Milton Bradley
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In a philosophical world of absolute freedom versus absolute slavery there would be no debate. If the choice is slavery of the kind practiced in the US previous to the civil war, there is no real debate,

Agreed.


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but when you start defining slavery as having to pay taxes, there is lots of room for debate, because then you start confusing the accepted and cultural definition of the term slavery to suit your ideological stance.

Again, mostly agreed.



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So what YOU would define as beyond debate really is not beyond debate when you ask the average citizen. And when you start talking about shooting at people because they do not agree with your definitions, who's the one who is willing to go the crazy extremes to further a cause?

Well, when one side assumes that each liberty that has already been recognized by government can be renegotiated, yes, some of us will inevitably revert to the Second Ammendment to defend what we have legally established to be a "right of the citizen". We see this as one of those "inconvenient truths" that is non-negotiable, as many of the other truths you are so willing disregard in your attempts to undermine The Constitution of The United States.


My side of this situation still has legal, and moral justification. Yours rests upon the erosion of existing laws, deregulation of existing rules, and a government overstepping it's bounds with predatory, and coercive tactics.

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