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Since this thread is supposed to be about creationism vs. evolution, I have a question; why are Christians offended by the thought that we descended from an early form of primate but OK with the Biblical implication that we were created from dirt?
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I would guess for the same reason that a baker would be offended if you suggested her cake was created from a cake mix and not from scratch. It's not the ingredients that offend but the method of preparation. You see, those early forms of primate were fashioned from the same 'dirt' (elements and compounds) but with a different recipe. The science of creation is exactly the same as that of evolution, only the methodology is different (actually, only the point of origin).
Evolution starts with abiogenesis and progresses from simple single cell life to the diversity that exists today. Creationism starts with God creating many different kinds of life and those life forms 'evolving' into the diversity that exists today. Both schools examine nature and because of inherent bias arrive at different conclusions, each accusing the other of faulty exegesis.
The truth of the matter is that the argument is centered around one central point: the existence or non-existence of God. The only reason that this is such a heated debate is because of the horrendous record (actions) of religion throughout the ages.
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the designer would have to be something supernatural, because nothing natural, as far as we can assume, no matter how advanced, can create something out of nothing.
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As I mentioned earlier, this is the sticking point of the argument. How did the universe and its contents come about? There are two school of thoughts: it has always existed and something appeared from nothing.
The Christian thought is based on the first words of the Bible: "In the beginning God...". This suggests the first school of thought; i.e., God has always existed. Since the origin of the universe is unknown, then God becomes the marker for this unknown beginning. There's nothing supernatural about that except for the incredible improbability of life. Life shouldn't exist but it does.
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And why would god create bones in the Earth made to look really really old unless he was trying to decieve us? isn't deception the devil's work?
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What makes those bones "look really really old"? Because they have turned to stone? How long does that take? Have you actually measured it or are you just accepting what you have been taught? Where does the deception really lie? Think about it.
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dont understand the problem with evolution, perhaps the designer designed evolution as a way for his creations to improve, the 2 dont contradict each other. Its just that one doesn't have any proof and shouldn't be taught in schools until it gets proof.
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That's true except for the fact that evolution is trying to force the conclusion of common descent. Of course, without a Creator, it simply has no choice. If evolutionary theory would concede that different life forms had different beginnings (created with inherent differences), it would concede the existence of God. Until God becomes a known entity, this can't happen.