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Old Mar 2, 2008, 12:50 am   #1993 (permalink) (top)
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Granted; as I said, there is definitely enough evidence for the Theory of Evolution to disregard the possibility of it being wrong.
How can a thinking person arrive at such a forlorn conclusion? It appears to me the exact opposite is the truth.

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Yes. But since the pace of evolutionary change is quite slow, we would expect such cases to be quite rare.
It's so slow that it's non-existent, just as I expected.

How do you thwart science? By imposing conditions that make observation and repeatability impossible.

Of course, false conclusions help to skew the scientific method, as well.

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As far back as the 50's amino acids were "created" using the very chemicals and substances present in primordial earth, with a bit of electricity added.
What chemicals and substances were present, where did they come from and how was that ascertained?

What some acid heads did in the 50's has little bearing on prehistoric earth.

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The building blocks of life, produced in a lab just as science said it happened millions of years ago.
Wow, how could anyone argue with that? Why, that's science...or close enough for those trying to prove a point (Science has said nothing of the sort...just some science-challenged scientists without a clue).

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But get near a large body and you would learn about gravity up close and personal.
Is that why I am attracted to really large women?

Simply physics!

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They haven't been at it for 20 million years yet.
Why not 100 quadrillion years? Are you proposing a young earth theory?

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They PROVED that the ingredients for life CAN be reproduced in a lab, based on what the primordial Earth had availiable.
Proof..what a lovely word! I like 100 proof, myself. Oh, and primordial earth...where is that list detailing what was available?...after all of these years, I've lost mine.

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It took a while for a round Earth to catch on.
Ain't that the truth! The Bible declared it about 4,000 years ago and mankind just started believing it in the last 400.

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A.A., B.S., M.S., B.A., M.A. degrees with several minors. My mother used to call me a professional student. My two sons have B.S., B.S., B.A., M.A, and J.D.
Well, that explains your pedantic style, doesn't it?

Yawn, so many letters and not a word, yet BS makes a good acronym.

Did you graduate from a liberal arts college?

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He was laughing at people who believed in Dinosaurs and held up the bible and shouted to the audience "if there had been such a thing as dinosaurs the bible would tell us so, but it doesn't mention one thing about dinosaurs"
You know that's pitiful. He shouldn't be laughing at people. They can't help it, they've been taught those lies since grade school. How are they suppose to know any better?

The word 'dinosaur' was only recently coined. The words in the Bible which were used instead were words like 'dragon', 'behemoth' and 'leviathan'. Same creatures, just different names.

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I thought to myself, if 2000 years plus ago, when they wrote the bible someone had dug up a dinosaur would they even have known what it was, or been able to carbon date it to work out how ancient it was. For that matter would they have known what carbon, or atoms, or even the moon and sun was for that matter. Theres no way they could have known or understood such things. 2000 years ago they were ignorant superstitious folk and yet people take their written words as if they were modern day Einsteins.
There's further proof of just how ignorant and superstitious modern man has become. The ancient Egyptians (under direction of Pharaoh) built a pyramid with a tiny slit that would light up Pharaoh's tomb on only one day a year...his birthday! When stunned scientists attempted to duplicate this feat, they missed it by a day. Seems like the ancient Egyptians were much more capable than the atrophy-brained people of today.

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Eratosthenes of Cyrene (Greek Eρατοσθένης; 276 BC - 194 BC) was a Greek mathematician, poet, athlete, geographer and astronomer. His contemporaries nicknamed him "beta" (Greek for "number two") because he supposedly proved himself to be the second in the ancient Mediterranean region in many fields. He is noted for devising a system of latitude and longitude, and for being the first known person to have calculated the circumference of the Earth. He also created a map of the world based on the available geographical knowledge of the era. Eratosthenes was also the founder of scientific chronology; he endeavored to fix the dates of the chief literary and political events from the conquest of Troy.

He made several important contributions to mathematics and science, and was a good friend to Archimedes. Around 255 BC he invented[citation needed] the armillary sphere, which was widely used until the invention of the orrery in the 18th century.

He is credited by Cleomedes in On the Circular Motions of the Celestial Bodies with having calculated the Earth's circumference around 240 BC, using knowledge of the angle of elevation of the Sun at noon on the summer solstice in Alexandria and in the Elephantine Island near Syene (now Aswan, Egypt).

Eratosthenes knew that on the summer solstice at local noon in the Ancient Egyptian city of Swenet (known in Greek as Syene) on the Tropic of Cancer, the sun would appear at the zenith, directly overhead. He also knew, from measurement, that in his hometown of Alexandria, the angle of elevation of the Sun would be 1/50 of a full circle (7°12') south of the zenith at the same time. Assuming that Alexandria was due north of Syene he concluded that the distance from Alexandria to Syene must be 1/50 of the total circumference of the Earth. His estimated distance between the cities was 5000 stadia (about 500 geographical or nautical miles). He rounded the result to a final value of 700 stadia per degree, which implies a circumference of 252,000 stadia. The exact size of the stadion he used is frequently argued. The common Attic stadion was about 185 m, which would imply a circumference of 46,620 km, i.e. 16.3% too large. However, if we assume that Eratosthenes used the "Egyptian stadion"[citation needed] of about 157.5 m, his measurement turns out to be 39,690 km, an error of less than 1%.[1]

Although Eratosthenes' method was well founded, the accuracy of his calculation was inherently limited.[/u] The accuracy of Eratosthenes' measurement would have been reduced by the fact that Syene is not precisely on the Tropic of Cancer, is not directly south of Alexandria, and the Sun appears as a disk located at a finite distance from the Earth instead of as a point source of light at an infinite distance. There are other sources of experimental error: the greatest limitation to Eratosthenes' method was that, in antiquity, overland distance measurements were not reliable, especially for travel along the non-linear Nile which was traveled primarily by boat. So the accuracy of Eratosthenes' size of the earth is surprising.

Eratosthenes' experiment was highly regarded at the time, and his estimate of the Earth’s size was accepted for hundreds of years afterwards. His method was used by Posidonius about 150 years later.
Eratosthenes - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

I could post link after link of ancient man's incredible feats of intelligence, skill, and cunning...but I doubt if you would be able to understand it, given your limited ability.

It's really sad to realize that people today are unaware that ancient man was more intelligent than modern man and not less. This ignorant thinking comes not just from being more ignorant but from the deceptive teachings that man evolved from a lower primate and, therefore, was less intelligent in the past. The common perception of the 'stupid' cave man is, in itself, about as stupid as it gets. Yet, that perception will continue to linger as it is a desirable lie to believe. Go ahead on, Einsteins!

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I think theres something seriously wrong with the human mind, some sort mental blind spot, that makes it easy for supposedly rational people to believe in such nonsence.
You're absolutely right...but with all the wrong examples.

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Faced with this I wonder what the point is in trying to talk intelligently with the religeous minded. Its not like any of them are ever going to say "well you've convinced with your sound argument, I guess I was mistaken when I thought I was created by some mystical entity"
I am a Christian and my I.Q. is only 130 but I will challenge you to ANY test of intelligence to see who is really smart and who isn't. I'm not talking about learned knowledge (reciting the names of the Presidents) but logic and reasoning ability and cognitive skills (problem solving). From your remarks, it's easy to see that you wouldn't know intelligence if it hit you in your coccyx.


My faith is stirred but never shaken.

I'm the proof that evolution works...

You're the proof that it doesn't.


If I had a button, I'd push it!

Can I push yours?
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