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Quote by: loser Tell me how the "big bang" is observable and show me the evidence. Also, what caused the big bang, what was here before the big bang and where did it come from? I so want someone to prove how the universe got here in a way that is less "supernatural" than God.

How about the Doppler Effect? How about Cosmic Microwave Background Radiation? And gasp, scientists are actually looking for the answers instead of reading a 2000 year old story book and getting answers from there.

Those Nobel prize winning physicists are SO FUNNY...what a HOOT!

I detect a hint of jealousy for not winning one for your "All salt on earth is made from Job" theory.

And yet, how superstitious is it to call "magical" an unknown entity? Isn't it silly presumption to believe that we are the only intelligent beings in the universe? Wait...if you believe that, how could you even be called intelligent? No, we have better words for people like that.

Yep, we call them losers.

That's dumb...life is rarely either or...do you make this stuff up as you go?

Its painfully obvious that you do.

What's clear is that you have never had an original thought in your life. All you do is repeat things that you have heard or read. I bet that you have never split an atom. I would even dare say that you have probably never even baked a cake. Have you ever changed out a transmission in a car? Performed heart surgery? Built a house? What amazing thing have you done that makes you feel superior to others? I'm dying to know. You see, you're not beyond reproach either. Stop all of the personal attacks...it's a sign of weakness.

Yes, because all the things you listed, including being a 'scientist' that thinks the Bible is 'proven' by science, is totally original. Also what does doing something 'original' have to do with credibility or validity? Last I checked observations, experiments, and proof came before originality when judging plausibility. This isn't an art contest, you don't get points for being 'original'.

ROFL...you are a funny one..or two...how many personalities are you, anyway?

What does that have to do with the topic? Sounds like a personal dig to me.

You're not able to recognize evidence and you have no understanding. You are completely illogical and unreasonable but that's the best that you can do. Pretty much everything you say is wrong. I've got to stop...I'm starting to sound like you.

Perhaps its a habit you should continue, maybe his sense of reasoning will rub off on you.

No wonder you don't believe in anything. You don't even know what believe means. FYI, belief is based on evidence and reason and truth. Without those, belief vanishes.

Consult a dictionary please. Belief doesn't need evidence or reason or truth behind it, otherwise organized religion would no longer exist. Belief, by its very nature must transcend logic. You cant try to inject it with 10ccs of nonsensical rambling and call it science, it defeats the entire purpose.

gallo, I've grown weary of your pedantic (read as ostentatious) style. Until you start to actually contribute something to the discussion, I'll save time by giving your posts the most cursory perusal. Good move!

Indeed.

You got that right! Idiocracy made real.

I'm sure they would love to thank you for contributing.

Which shows just how far off the mark man has become.

Have you ever stopped to think that perhaps you're the one thats off the mark here? Have you really ever given it serious thought, or are you not the type to question your own fallibility?

Eliminate religion and science would be a thing of the past. It is religion that has kept science's fires burning brightly. How could any intelligent being in today's world not know this?

If you eliminate religion then secular civil wars between opposing factions of religions would be a thing of the past, along with the majority of terrorism, but no, science needs religion as much as a couch needs a built in blender. Its unwieldy and obsolete.

Ever heard the song, "True Colors"? When I read what you just said about gallo, that song came to mind.

I've never heard it no, but I'll be sure to listen to it. Perhaps your taste in music is better than your taste in theories.

That's simply not true. The vagueness of the meaning 'evolution' is causing the dissemination of false knowledge and deliberate indoctrination. Absolutely nothing has been learned that corroborates common descent...it still remains speculative fiction with no grounding in science.

Then why, oh why cant you give us this damning evidence you keep referencing that blows evolution off the face of the earth?

Creationism is a FACT of life. Look around, the world you live in literally teems with things created. And I'm not just talking about things created by humans or even other animals (such as ant hills or beaver dams). The tides of the oceans are created. The Grand Canyon (all canyons, in fact) are created. Hail, rain, snow, wind...all created. None of these things are random accidents. You'd be hard pressed to find anything in this universe that wasn't created. Can you tell me something that wasn't created?

Since I'm noticing the lack of the words 'by god' after the word 'created' in the preceding, no I cant tell you anything that hasn't been created.

And yet, for some incredible reason (who knows what that reason is?), people want to reject creationism. Go figure.

Read a Bible. Creationism refers to God as being the creator, not celestial bodies, or rivers, or combinations of the water cycle and temperatures, respectively. The only thing that has been pointed out is that just about everything can change or 'create' something into something else. Theres no God involved.

No, that's really bad exegesis. Here's some good exegesis: evidence of creation: you - AKA procreation

Procreation is the act of sex. Sex would lead to the sperm inseminating the egg and after that, gasp! Cell reproduction!

Don't forget halitosis!

Thank you for saving me the trouble of showing how ignorant you are. You're doing quite well all by yourself.

No, biology stands...an incorrect theory and bad science is eliminated!

If by bad science and theory you mean ID, then sure, lets go with that.