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Quote by: freefallife  Free will has been played out already. Unless you can offer something more substantial to the debate other than a big hypothetical "what-if", concede that free will cannot possibly justify the existance of human suffering in the world. Free will does not justify any of the natural horrors and disasters god apparently "programed" into the function of the world. | Quote:
Quote by: ItsDarts You are right that theists avoid these types of threads because they don't have an answer. There is no rational answer as to why a god like the christian god would allow suffering from natural events that he could clearly control. Their best answer always seems to be, we can't understand gods plan. They may be satisfied with that answer, but obviously atheists aren't. | It's not as though you contested my last post, freefallife.
God created every thing in the universe. Evil is not a thing.
Reason is the greatest enemy that faith has: it never comes to the aid of spiritual things, but .. struggles against the divine Word, treating with contempt all that emanates from God.
-Martin Luther |