| Igneous Magma
Location: Cape Town South Africa Posts: 304 | So with enough time all animals will evolve a conscious, and start to wonder about things, maybe even philosophising to some point, so I reckon that there is no God creation thing, as in in making two humans first, as we evolved from this ozone surrounded planet into our present form. I guess that Genesis is a incorrect testament therefore, as God never walked with us, and God never spoke to us, because if God were to appear to people practising deep thoughts, they would likely be scared of this manifestation. How did God speak to us? He must have had vocal chords to be heard, or a conscious of His own, so that is another thought in the evolution of God, as nothing can communicate without going through evolution. How did he speak in the language of the times? He must have been watching and one day decided to come to us and claim He made us, when it is clear we evolved from fish, so how does the natural forces of law and nature manifest itself all of a sudden? He must have been born like Jesus was, and then grew with the people who hailed Him as God, maybe he was born on a stormy night, and they just thought He was special, so hailed Him as God.
But it says that they were naked, how could this be? Even neadrathals had clothing, so they were never naked in my opinion, it is a lie.
On consciousness we react to everything from when we are born, actually from when we are in the womb. Are we conscious then, thinking about the world we are in? Exploring the womb we would find boundaries, and from these boundaries we would draw conclusions as if this happens, so this happens. So the first time we experience anything is the moment we become conscious of that, so what leads to deep thoughts? I think that deep thoughts are arrived at by reacting to wonder, and wonder comes from reactions to having nothing knowledge - or reactions - to the problem at large. The problem sparks off survival instinct, they all do, so how do we arrive at the problem being what you are? This leads to exploring self, and exploring self comes before philosophy, so I guess it comes down to first physical exploration, then realising that we have a reaction to each exploration, and then we wonder what is in our minds because of the phsysical exploration. We think why we feel this, then we speculate as to what else we could feel, so where does speculation come from? After all speculation is required to arrive at conscious, a sense of self, so specualtion comes from our mind taping all our past experiences to the new one, and seeing if it fits. If it doesn't fit, we look for past knowledge on what else could, because we cannot have a thought that doesn't come from experience.
That is where animals go slow, because their language doesn't evolve, they never will. With language we can make up sentences for fun, by ourselves, that don't fit any problems. We can think of things that are beyond us because we speculate at unknown things. So conscious is the exploration ability of the unknown. If someone asks you who you are, then you can answer by the name others call you, then think of who you are, because of our brains reactions to fear. I guess it is fear that makes us explore ourselves, as fear of the unknown - after realsing there is an unknown - makes us look for answers. We look for answers because we are scared, even though we don't feel fear. The more we know the more we are afraid of, so when our brain realises that we are needing something, we react with wanting to know what it is.
So how do we end up with knowing ourselves? We are scared of not knowing oursleves, even though we don't feel fear, our instinct makes us explore, so as we have evolved, so has our instinct, until we arrived at a point where our instinct said to us tht we needed to know oursleves to know what we wanted. What do i want is a conscious thought, so in having everything we needed, we started to think of what else could we need in future, then why we needed it. We think why because we have eveything we need, at some point, and then start to think of the excess, what to do with it, and then asked why we had excess - when we were still evolving. This was a lazy question as hard work was required to store foods, so avoiding food storage was thought of as good, so then we thought of why we needed to store foods? For the winter of course, but we arrived at why because we were trying to avoid something, so we asked others to do it, and they asked why the others wouldn't do it, and the others said it was tiring. They thought why because they were lazy, and I bet that was the first why in evolution.
But what goes into the question why? Instinct requires that things be done, and then the effort involved says that it is not what they want, but instead of not doing it and dying, they thought it was cold, we need to store foods, then that it was a great effort, then they realised why they do things. So does the realiasation com ebefore why? I am full because I have eaten, why am I eating and the other is not, they must be full, why are they full, because they have eaten.
So conscious comes from seeking comfort and survival, then once we have the word 'why', we seek to attach it to other things.
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