[loser]

Zhavric posted:

Quote: Quote by: loser The point was that the virgin birth story of Mary and Jesus was ridiculed on the grounds of it being scientifically impossible. We now know that it is very possible, after all. Hence, people thinking themselves wise when they were not wise, after all. What a dishonest sentiment? What an intellectually bankrupt line of reasoning?...

No and no.

I'm in awe...

Thank you, you should be.

As though scientific achievements that were fictional as recently as a few decades ago can excuse mythology from 2000 years ago

The pathetic shortcomings of men and their dismissal of science as myth and superstition are, indeed, no excuse for their ignorance...as though they have a clue.

What did you have planned for an encore? A link to a website about tasers with a rousing explanation about how hand held electricity guns "prove" that it was possible for Zeus to hurl bolts of lightning at people?

Tasers are infant's toys made by infantile humans. If an ET was named Zeus, the bolts he hurled would be quite more complex than what little minds would be able to understand. Highly advanced and intelligent beings are not limited by man's ignorance.

Loser, I invite you to consider the special pleadings you're invoking here

Z, I invite you to keep listening...one day, you might get it.

It's become obvious from this thread and others that you're more than willing to stretch and break the boundaries of intellectual honesty to try to get a point across.

What's becoming obvious is that not everyone has equal understanding.

Before you make a claim, please make sure it can be supported.

You appear to be making a lot of unsupported claims. Don't your rules also apply to you?

Interesting articles on emerging science, but the event in the OP supposedly occurred 2000 years ago.

If the event in the OP was predicated on man's scientific acheivement, your argument would be valid. However, I am speaking from the stance that a superior intelligent being that surpassed our scientific levels possibly billions of years ago (or more) performed this 'spectacle'. Try to imagine our acheivements a billion years from now being performed 2000 years ago and you will see it in a different light.

The Mary's Immaculate Conception story...

That doctrine does not relate to Jesus' birth, it relates to Mary's birth and is a Catholic myth.

Comparing the story of Mithra or Attis to the story of Jesus is like comparing the story of Hercules to the story of Samson. The former is fiction and the latter is not. Jesus was not born on December 25. Because the Christian religion was appropriated by the Roman Empire and the Romans had all of those pagan holidays that they were not willing to relinquish, Roman rule perverted the Christian faith by blending Christianity with pagan customs. Hence, Saturday Sabbath became Sunday worship (in memory of the pagan Sun god). Christ's birth became a holiday to be celebrated on an important pagan date December 25th). His death and resurrection was celebrated on Easter (in recognition to the goddess Astarte). Marian worship was adopted from ancient Babylon through Isis, Astarte, Ashterothe, Juno, Venus, Dianna and other 'mother goddesses'. A long pagan tradition of female worship was the progenitor of the Catholic Church. Contrary to modern belief, there is nothing Christian about the RCC...it is pagan through and through.

Another false teaching is the Trinity. The Holy Spirit is not some third person of a triune God. God is one, the Father. Jesus is His Son. The Holy Spirit is the POWER of God, nothing more. This is why Jesus could be born of the Holy Spirit and yet still receive the Spirit later when He was baptized. Jesus was a man without any special powers. The power He was imbued with was God's Spirit. Not magic but a powerful essence (or energy) working in the same way as magnetism and electricity. Superstitious people think otherwise.

People can interpret truth in many different ways often turning it into mythical and mystical superstition. Yet, when the smoke of deception clears, the truth remains.