[Stizzles]

Since when is a legitimate opinion a red herring? I've already said I don't know much about the why, and linked to someone who did.

See, that's the BS move. You're outsourcing your thinking, and your arguments.

I know what my government did to get us into Iraq and I'm seeing the same thing in the push to get us into Iran.

As I said, please provide some evidence of this.

Through different podcasts I listen to, I also know there's more to Iran and her people besides "chants of Death to America" daily. Do you know what Iran's government tells its people? That Americans chant "Death to Iran" every day. Sorry, but that's just a juvenile and bigoted way of looking at a different culture and people.

I guess all the photos of children with AK47s and crowds burning American flags with "Death to those who insult Islam" signs were all photoshopped?

Oh, and "I heard it in a podcast" is not convincing evidence.

Appeal to emotion doesn't do much in the way of convincing me--in fact it does quite the opposite.

It wasn't an appeal to emotion. It was an appeal to arithmetic.

Since you don't want to be linked to folks that know more about the issue than you or I do, do a Google search on the path from nuclear power to nuclear weapons. It's not *poof* "oh shit how did they get that"! It's not a magic trick.

Yes, and unless there's a good deal of oversight, they can do it clandestinely. I'm saying we should be concerned, not that we should attack. You, on the other hand, are saying "Let's turn a blind eye, nothing could possibly be going wrong here!"

And don't be so intellectually dishonest. It isn't that I don't want to be linked to good information; it's that I don't come here to get that. I come here to have discussions with other people.

I don't know what "we" you are referring to. The evidence that Bush is wrong about Iran is in the NIE report linked in post #3.

From 2003? 5 years ago? Yeah, that's great intel. Let's stick with that.