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Quote by: Punkbuster  hmmm lets see them trying to knock down the WTC the first time was because of what we did in Iraq vis a vis Kuwait? that just about EVERY Gulf nation endorsed (who cares if it was about oil and furthermore Saddahm was MINO- Muslim in name only) or was it that we stood up for the Albanian Muslims in Kosovo (albeit late but none the less we did with our money and people- and other western countries as well allied with the UN) and of course giving Muslims free reign to do what ever they want in this country (at least pre 9-11- they riuned it for themselves not us) where they could build mosques and freely worship and spread their faith (preach your faith openly in most Mid East/African Muslim lands and prepare to die either officially or unofficially)- and of course no matter what the reason we assisted them against the Russians in Afganny (the enemy of my enemy is my freind no problem has happenend for years).
And of course those in Bali have done them wrong, England, Spain, Scotland, Pakistan on and on. LOL on them targeting those countires that have gone into Iraq- we are now seeing first hand that the rank and file in Iraq want nothing to do with Al-Qeada and their "kill first for god" philosophy. |
It’s nice of you to pick the few examples that on the surface seem noble of us but when you really break it down you will see that our actions always come with a hefty price. Let’s take our gracious intervention in Kuwait where we saved the poor people of Kuwait from an invading tyrant. You did mention oil, which was the primary purpose for our interference. We could not stand by and let our precious resource get threatened by a comparatively weaker army when we can take the opportunity to buttress our influence in the region. Do you not believe that the powers that be in the Middle East would have adequately dealt with Saddam without us? By the way you forgot to mention that Saddam was the friend of the US in the 1980’s when he invaded Iran and instead of chastising him we aided his actions. And you may ask, why? Well because we had a falling off with Iran after we controlled that country through the Shah, a puppet that was subject to our commands and ruled that country just as terribly as any dictator.
The Kosovo topic is very controversial and you can find people on many sides of the argument. Some will argue that the US should have stepped up its diplomatic efforts much earlier when Milosevic was oppressing his people during the late 80’s and early 90’s and should have never resulted to military means. The reason why we were so late in intervening was because there was little to gain from our presence there. Believe me, if there was oil that we had access to in Kosovo we would have been there quicker than Kuwait.
Afghanistan is yet another example of the US using a country for its own agenda and abandoning its people to terrible regimes and then when it comes back to hunt us we ask why. This was repeated many times in the past under the guise of preventing communism during the cold war. Cambodia, Vietnam, and Panama are few examples. Today you have to ask the question; was it worth all the costs in human lives and resources fighting a system that was going to be phased out anyway? We are still paying for all those past transgressions.
Interesting you bring up the topic of “Killing first for god” since most Christian conservatives in this country believe that the war on terrorism is more a less a continuation of the age old conflict between Christians and Muslims. Even Bush believes that he was right for going into Iraq because god told him so. I guess the west has never used god to justify any atrocities from the past being that we so righteous.
The truth is that America has been responsible for the deaths of millions of innocents around the world. It is the hard truth and one that many are ignorant about. People don’t start hating us just because of the social freedoms that we enjoy. There is a deeper reason behind it all one just needs to ask questions and see through all the BS.
Not to say that the US does no good in the world after all, being the world power and having much wealth and influence and socially conscious activists offers some opportunities for good to be done. The unfortunate part is that we put a price on every good deed. Whatever happened to doing good for goodness sake. Why Kuwait and not Rwanda or Iraq and not Sudan.
By the way the incident that thwarted the Dakar Rally is very unfortunate. I am very much a motor sports fan and believe that the rally is one of its purest forms. I happen to think that Al Qaeda’s actions around the world are despicable and make no mistake about it, I am no apologist for any organization that spreads terror and kills wantonly. It is however, naive to think that our government is an innocent participant or bystander being that we helped armed them and turned a blind eye while people like Viktor Bout supplied weapons the Taliban. All I'm saying is open your eyes and don’t let them fool you.