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Quote by: Sonart .3rd Circuit Court, United States v. Rybar

This case also deals with NFA the illegal transfer of a machine gun. Also up holding the NFA not about the second amendment.

Quote by: Sonart .4th Circuit Court, Love v. Peppersack

This case also doesn’t deal with the second amendment but with state law and a person that had been previously convicted of a crime and there fore is ineligible to own a firearm, which the judge acknowledges.

Quote by: Sonart .6th Circuit Court, United States v. Warin

Also not dealing with the second but with the NFA.

Quote by: Sonart .7th Circuit Court, Gillespie v. City of Indianapolis

This case also has nothing to do with the second amendment but with an individual that was convicted of a crime and therefore is ineligible to own a gun by his previous conviction.

Quote by: Sonart .8th Circuit Court, United States v. Hale

Yet again this case is about NFA not the second amendment. Its pursuant to machine guns.

Quote by: Sonart .11th Circuit Court, United States v. Adams

I’m sorry this case as with the rest of them is not about the second amendment it is about a convicted felon in possession of a gun.

Quote by: Sonart .Not based on the majority of subsequent lower court decisions such as those linked above.

What most the cases you have produced deal with either NFA or someone who is legally prevented from owning firearms per their convictions for perpetration of a crime. Though these cases tried to use the second, they were ultimately decided that the laws that prevented them from owning a gun were not in violation of the second. NFA deals with the interstate commerce clause not the second and regulates machine guns, short-barreled rifles, short-barreled shotguns, and all other weapons by taxing the sale of them. There are only 4 to 5 states that don’t allow them in civilian hands and CA is not one of them.
Even though the 9th decided the case that you offered up, (that is in my opinion) that since Miller is about NFA that the courts application of this president is misused, they mixed apples and oranges. I also have offered up a case that the same court decided in the opposite finding in favor of machine guns.

9th Circuit Court, United States v. Stewart

This case was won on an NFA violation but as the others this was not about the second but interstate commerce.

Quote by: Sonart .There you go... inciting an armed rebellion would be inciting a blood bath, and air and naval forces would be called upon in manners similar to fighting insurgencies elsewhere. Sure, the government might exercise more caution than it does abroad, but in the end it will use whatever force necessary to end the revolt. What the government will NOT do is throw up their hands, shout "Boy, you guys are too tough for us" and surrender... at least not until the country is sufficiently awash in blood.

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I have not incited nor called for a revolution in any of my posts. I have given a sound assessment to counter your assertion that a revolution would be impossible to mount in the US. I have given plausible examples of how a revolution could be mounted. And that to say it is imposable is to under estimate the resourcefulness of the American people.

Quote by: Sonart .Sorry TRIGGER, but there really are much, much better ways to resolve such issues, the most effective being to simply take to the streets in mass protests and civil disobedience.

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You are right but were they to fail what would you do succumb to the reality that you are destined to live the rest of your life in slavery and servitude to a tyrannical state. You don't seam to grasp point that the militia would be the last resort. If the vote were as Stalin said became decisions made by bureaucrats which if you listen to the democrats they happen in every election they lose. And civil disobedience was met with gunfire. Kent State comes to mind and the apx. 56 Million dissidents that were put to death in the last century by Governments. Is my distrust of governments that ridiculous? I think not.

Quote by: Sonart .Unless, of course, you'd actually PREFER a blood bath. That your idea of a swell time, "TRIGGER"?.

I have not called for anything of the like. And you know this. I have in this debate never called for a revolt. I have said that the militia is the whole people except for a few public officials. And that is a chk against our government becoming tyrannical. Wars are a thing to be avoided if at all possible. But to deny that the possibility exists is nothing more than denial. If you really think that it is impossible all you have to do is look back at the successful revolts that I mentioned in my previous post and it is clear that it can happen.