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Old Jan 7, 2008, 06:24 am   #24 (permalink) (top)
Kuldeep
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we are programmed to program ourselves? no no no, that doesn't make sense, perhaps you meant we are programmed to learn? programming is not learning.
when you learn, you might not get the whole picture, you might understtand something wrong, different kids learn different things from the same lessons.
when you are programmed, you just get the info hardwired into your brain. like brainwashing might be considered programming
Learning is programming to the extent of data feeding only to the chips of MMM or to cells of human brain. But, the fuctioning as a result of that programmed learning varies from person to person wherein, genom mapping's role comes into picture, behavioural individuality for example. How and why genom mapping is different in billions of humen, in itself is impossible to understand !!! Therefore, tough task to duplicate human artificially seems to be also impossible.


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i completely agree with 1 and 4, but how do you know they wont be able to display real emotion or develope a sense of individualisim? of course all the "AI" in games and basic robots and toys we have that display "emotion" are just prorgammed that way, but that doesn't mean they wont be able to in the future.
Displaying few emotions by countable sets of programmes and some mechanics does never mean one can develop innumerable number of emotions programmed to get inherntly existing within natural human being. As long as feeling of individuality is concerned it is even doubtful to ecactly feel, whether two humans feel their induividuality exactly same type. We get the idea by way of communication of thoughts, gestures and the like in unlimited number of manners and then we decide, alright all humans, animals, birds and insects have their unique identity.

I realy wonder if such type of dulicate emotions and individuality are develpoed in Robots in a situation, when we are not able to make JUST ONE naturally occurring ready made robot (HUMAN) deathless, eternally livable !!!

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your right about the human body, the whole thing is a giant biological machine. ever seen scifi movies where they have one of those living ships? its not as tough as metal, but hey, our buildings will be able to fix themselves, produce our own heat. it isn't even that impossible, just breed certain types of cells and "construct" them into whatever shape you want... and as long as you feed it, you might even get an extra floor at the end of the year.
I do agree, few set of developments could be made here and there but, to replicate a full natural living being from a scratch is not possible. Even for making a Clon, scientists need living cell as life force ( not food as you have hinted in the following quote)

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The life force is energy. the food we eat, thats what keeps us alive. and we can simply replace that with electricity, or nuclear power, or whatever source we are using that far in the future.
No, the life force, which I am refering is not energy but, the cause because of which cell is living. Food only helps to keep that cause continuing eternally living. That life force is not any of the physical matters or energies we are aware of. To my mind it is some meta-physical, we may term it Universal Consciousness.; the feeling of existence, which occurs both in living and no-living things as known to us commonly.!!!???? It is my wild guess. How can I prove meta-physical with physical tools ????
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