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Old Dec 27, 2007, 03:54 pm   #67 (permalink) (top)
Milton Bradley
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hahahahahahaha that's funny. So by your rationale, no one can "dictate" anything unless they were there first? Given the fluidity of cultures and people, at what point in time do we "fix" that and say that all cultures are geographically fixed and can no longer overtake any others???

Misunderstanding at that level is an art form, and you are an artist of unmatched talent in this area.


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Furthermore, you show your ignorance of the actual conditions on so-called "reservations". The culture that exists on "reservations" today bears no resemblance to anything that predates the United States. Where minor nods to "tribal" influences exist, they are focused on crude stereotypes that usually do not reflect their tribal heritage. For example, the so-called "dreamcatchers" found for sale on almost every reservation, despite the fact that they were exclusively an Algonquin (Chippewa, actuall) item. Iroquois in reservations near me sell Navajo-style blankets and have murals showing tee-pees.

What does that have to do with self determination?


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If these tribes wanted to live on original tribal lands and live in the way that their ancestors did - the point of the reservations, I would have no problem with the reservation system (indeed, I have advocated for similar treatment for the old order Amish in Pennsylvania). But I see no reason to grant them this latitude and sovereignty just so they can run casinos and smuggle drugs and generally flaunt their special circumstances.

Oh, so you're not inclined to "grant" them the freedon to live as they so choose.


That's what I was attempting to do, out you as an elitists.


Mission accomplished.


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They don't HAVE to assimilate, but if they want success, that is the best avenue.

And frankly, if they want to continue receiving the advantages that having a reservation grants them, they need to exhibit some reason for having it, i.e. to preserve their pre-U.S. culture.

Again, that just sounds like somebody that wants to dictate terms for others to follow.
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