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Quote by: Osborn They can if they feel threatened, and can make that "accusation" stick to a jury.... much like and individual can. |
So you think that's just? Two wrongs make a right?
At least outside of Texas, it's not legal to just simply shoot them for engaging in criminal mischief. If someone presents a lie to get out of punishment and a jury believes it, it doesn't matter if its a cop or soccor mom. This still isn't justification that we should make their actions legal since they're going to get out of it anyway as you implied.
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Maybe cops shouldn't put me in fear of mine, at the direction and control of the corrupt government.
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Cops put you in fear for your life by ticketing you for jaywalking? Common...
Osborn we were discussing escalation as an apparent false characterization of the use of force. Keith was trying to attribute someone being executed for Jaywalking.
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I smell a hint of elitism.....
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If it's elitist to not want to give protection under the law to people who in the minority of gun owners actually want to shoot people over criminal mischief, than I'm an elitist. That's not my definition of elitism though.
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To focus on the fact a LAW HAS ALREADY BEEN BROKEN, by trespassing.
The trespasser had NO RIGHT to be there.
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And I agree with that point. I just don't think you have the right to execute him for simply being there.
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What happens when I call the cops?
They threaten to use lethal force, to gain compliance of the individual.
If blood is spilled, its just on someone elses hands.
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No they don't threaten lethal force for criminal mischief, sorry.
If someone decides to do something stupid after the police have made contact that's a completely different offense unrelated to the initial one. Presupposing that someone committing criminal mischief is immediately going to jump into a violent act is completely 100% asinine.
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In an issue between a trespasser and a legal property owner, there is already an issue of law breaking that has occurred, so it shouldn't be made to be that both are on "equal ground" in the legal issue.
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In terms of the use of lethal force everyone should be on equal ground if no action has been taken to indicate the intent to harm an individual or those around them. Once more, criminal mischief does not imply intent to harm PERIOD.