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Old Dec 11, 2007, 10:38 am   #10 (permalink) (top)
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no, because prisoners of war have rights.....
Under the Geneva Convention, yes. And it is the Convention that applies here.


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Bush and his hench men made up his own new rules with haven't been run by anybody else in the world to confirm ligitamacy etc... and therefore these guys are kept in the gray zone, never getting to go anywhere.... it's his own personal torture camps.... even if there isn't physical, the mental torture of being told you're going to be stuck there forever and there is no chance to get a way out by any legal standards, it's just plain sick and twisted.
Yes, they did and it is a very dangerous thing they have done because it opens the door to even worse things that are coming in the future.


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And for a country in the free world, sorry "Leader of the Free World" you would think these people would know a thing about freedoms and rights for humans.
Well, considering that the United States has been violating its own Constitution since at least the mid-late 19th century, don't count on it.

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Most of the majority in there are by their own military's standards, troops/soldiers.... but they have no uniforms like the US, and they fight against them, so they are terrorists and therefore get no rights.
Hmmm, I don't know about saying they have no rights at all. At least if they're enemy combatants they have certain rights under the Geneva Convention.

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Does any of this ring a bell with how the British treated the US colony's militias and forces when captured?
I wasn't there but if I remember my history correctly, colonial militiamen were treated worse.

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It's the same damn thing as what's going on now.... two wars started on two countries which had nothing to do with 9/11, and they fight for their lands and way of life, and because they oppose the US forces coming into their lands and blowing the snot out of their lives and families, they are branded terrorists and stripped of all their basic human rights, and locked away indefinatly.....
Well, since Afghanistan was the base for Al Qaeda and the government there fully endorsed and supported Al Qaeda, war against Afghanistan is valid. However, Iraq had nothing to do with 9/11 and was not a threat to the United States (though, technically, the U. S. had the right to resume the prior Gulf War since Sadaam Hussein violated the cease fire agreement).


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