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Old Jun 18, 2004, 08:24 am   #14 (permalink) (top)
Comrade
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No, islamic fundamentalism lives in the Middle East.

Falling all over himself to defend the Saudis? Is that why we removed all our troops?

Also, doesn't an Iraqi democracy, and even more than a democracy, an Arabic liberal society, increase our chances of causing changes in Saudi Arabia?


What? Democracy was never created by foreign aggression? Japan isn't a democracy? Or Germany? South Korea stopped being a democracy?
You have subscriped to one of those "it sounds nice" theories, like "peace can't be won through violence." which is very much incorrect. You also caricature our involvement in Iraq.

Bishop, you are 100% correct in that some people believe America is there for ulterior motives, because the Middle East has a long history of seeing America as Satan, as it were, because we are successful. I don't mean this in the "they're jealous," way. I mean this in the Khomeini calling us in league with Satan way, because according to Islamic fundamentalism, that is the only way we can be successful. We break a lot of the moral laws of Islamic fundamentalism, and we are successful, they (their leaders force them to) follow God's laws, and yet they are among some of the least successful countries out there. That is what we need to FIX. Before Islamic fundamentalism made it our business, it wasn't, but now it IS our business, as a counter arguement for people who believe otherwise.
THere is also the added threat from us of subverting their "holy ways" which is yet another way to make America a scapegoat. I believe I already commented on the symbolism of the Barbie dolls...


Oh, it's really too bad, isn't it?
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Hahaha, that's funny. Liberals are so silly!
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