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Quote by: Milton Bradley I would like to know how you can justify defining a "Federalized", National Guard as a "States Militia"?

I don't define them as the Militia, and I would like to know when I've personally commented on the National Guard one way or another, beyond referencing others references to the National Guard? Is this a new debate tactic for you, Milton...assign a statement to someone that they never made, then attack them on it? How's it working for you so far?

As to your question... as I'm sure everyone here knows, the militias were folded into the U.S. Army in 1900 as the Army National Guard, so their only connection to state Militias is tradition, and the fact that they can be called to service in emergencies by the Governors of the states in which each militia resides.

The closest we have to the original State Militias are the State Defense Forces, of which only 22 of our 50 states recognize.

All the more reason the 2nd Amendment is moot.

Quote by: Milton Bradley Unless you're going to tell me the Governors are over in Iraq commanding their troops.

See above...

Otherwise, the Constitution explains the chain of command quite well, whether you view the National Guard as the evolution of the militias or not....

Article I, Section 8: Clause 15 -- "(Congress shall have the power...) To provide for calling forth the militia to execute the laws of the union, suppress insurrections and repel invasions;"

(Apparently Dear Leader sees invading Iraq as "repelling invasions" pre-emptorily )

Article I, Section 8: Clause 16 -- "(Congress shall have the power...) To provide for organizing, arming, and disciplining, the militia, and for governing such part of them as may be employed in the service of the United States, reserving to the states respectively, the appointment of the officers, and the authority of training the militia according to the discipline prescribed by Congress;"

Article I, Section 10: Clause 3 -- "No state shall, without the consent of Congress, lay any duty of tonnage, keep troops, or ships of war in time of peace, enter into any agreement or compact with another state, or with a foreign power, or engage in war, unless actually invaded, or in such imminent danger as will not admit of delay."

Article II, Section 2: -- "The President shall be commander in chief of the Army and Navy of the United States, and of the militia of the several states, when called into the actual service of the United States;"

Quote by: Osborn F. Enready No. I have said we as a nation are ready, I have not said "come on people, follow me". I have stated that I see the transgressions against the Constitution as worthy of revolt, especially compared to what cause our revolt from England, and looking at the causes of the civil war. I have stated that 157 years is long enough for a monopoly on U.S. political power by two parties that started as one party, and are still one party, bent on authoritarian rulership of this nation in the end. I am not however assembling a plan, nor am I preparing to march, nor am I leading a movement to start a revolution.

ad-vo-cate verb -- 1. to speak or write in favor of; support or urge by argument; recommend publicly:

I asked if you'd "advocated" armed rebellion. Obviously you have, even if now you're splitting hairs about whether you're "leading it" or not. Ben Franklin didn't grab a musket and yell, "Follow me!" either. That doesn't mean he wasn't complicate in an armed rebellion taking place.

Ironic, isn't it, that Osborn would be guilty of that which he condemns... old men drumming up wars and then sending young men off to fight them.

Quote by: Osborn F. Enready What we have now is a bloodbath,, except the bulk of the blood is being spilled in foreign lands and U.S. prisons against non-violent offenders.

Nice try, but there's a pretty clear distinction between foreign military adventures and domestic. But perhaps you should keep the images of blood being spilled on foreign lands firmly in mind, next time you feel that "We as a nation are ready..." for an armed rebellion.

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