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RebelWithanAK · Nov 2, 2003, 12:48 am

Where to begin, where to begin.

Australians are White westerners, plain and simple; they have a particularly similar history to us, having been borne from the same people and having done committed the same atrocities to the natives in true English fashion.

The Japanese are a Chinese offshoot (unless you count the local Ainu), and were justifiably headstrong (and extremely racist) until the end of WWII, as they never were invaded nor defeated before then. Obviously, Hirohito does not ring a bell to you.

China, basically, was whomped by the British and Japanese, and has spent most of its time having internal problems in either trying to emulate us or rebuff us. Hence, Taiwan. Hence, Mao. However, if it wants to truly bloom, it knows it has to do things multilaterally (as compared to going the way of Russia), and empire-building does not equate into that. Hence, Hong Kong; hence Shanghai.

They're a lot calmer now mainly because of their respective defeats. You don't see any upstarts in Europe after WWII because they all quickly learned how devastating a foreign invasion was.

However, America has yet to be humbled. In our 200 years, we've never been invaded. In that way, we're closer to the Australians than the British, and it's no wonder both the US and Australia are quite racist.

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Now, the reason the Japanese man was "quiet," is because America's meddling in the 19-teens has catapulted Japan from a medieval society to a modern one, essentially skipping the all-important renaissance, which essentially shifts a culture from honorifics to rationalism. Of course, rationalism brings its own problems, as reported on my bullshit-o-tron, but it's a fundamental divide. The muslim world, for instance, has not gone through such a change. As such, the most important aspect to the Japanese man is his honor. You simply will not get him to admit fault, or that he is wrong. Hence, negotiating takes a bit of tact. So, going up against a headstrong American is a just a lesson in the faux pas.

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RebelWithanAK Igneous Magma Location: New York City Posts: 739	Where to begin, where to begin. Australians are White westerners, plain and simple; they have a particularly similar history to us, having been borne from the same people and having done committed the same atrocities to the natives in true English fashion. The Japanese are a Chinese offshoot (unless you count the local Ainu), and were justifiably headstrong (and extremely racist) until the end of WWII, as they never were invaded nor defeated before then. Obviously, Hirohito does not ring a bell to you. China, basically, was whomped by the British and Japanese, and has spent most of its time having internal problems in either trying to emulate us or rebuff us. Hence, Taiwan. Hence, Mao. However, if it wants to truly bloom, it knows it has to do things multilaterally (as compared to going the way of Russia), and empire-building does not equate into that. Hence, Hong Kong; hence Shanghai. They're a lot calmer now mainly because of their respective defeats. You don't see any upstarts in Europe after WWII because they all quickly learned how devastating a foreign invasion was. However, America has yet to be humbled. In our 200 years, we've never been invaded. In that way, we're closer to the Australians than the British, and it's no wonder both the US and Australia are quite racist. --- Now, the reason the Japanese man was "quiet," is because America's meddling in the 19-teens has catapulted Japan from a medieval society to a modern one, essentially skipping the all-important renaissance, which essentially shifts a culture from honorifics to rationalism. Of course, rationalism brings its own problems, as reported on my bullshit-o-tron, but it's a fundamental divide. The muslim world, for instance, has not gone through such a change. As such, the most important aspect to the Japanese man is his honor. You simply will not get him to admit fault, or that he is wrong. Hence, negotiating takes a bit of tact. So, going up against a headstrong American is a just a lesson in the faux pas. . . . whenever any government becomes destructive to these ends, it is the right of the people to alter or to abolish it, and to institute a new government, laying its foundations on such principles and organizing its powers in such forms as to them shall seem most likely to effect their safety and happiness.