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Prax said:
Once apon a time it was logical to think the earth was flat, now it is logical to think that it is spherical.
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It was never "logical" to think the earth was flat. That was taken from religion and mythical doctrines.
Logic has proven the earth is a geoid, though it appears spherical.
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Prax said:
Once apon a time it was illogical to think we could reach space, break the sound barrier, fly period.... what is logical to some may not be logical to others, and sorry, I don't think in the narrow perspective that it isn't subjective.
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Well, you're wrong. It was postulated that man couldn't reach space, break the sound barrier, or fly. Logic has proven them all wrong, by removing contradiction systematicly.
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Prax said:
I don't expect you to agree or understand, nor do I care, no offense.
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The only offense is the assault on logic, because you don't understand it.
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Prax said:
A knife is better then a fist.
A gun is better then a knife.
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My whole point. People have a right to competent defense against reasonable threats that exist. In a world of massive armies bearing bombs, space-capable missiles, all the way down to the common bayonet affixed to the tip of a firearm, firearms are the most logical, most practical, most reasonable means of
individual defense against all known threats using physical force.
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Chaos said:
The argument they're making (at least as far as I can tell) is that while it is your right to possess a gun, you cannot prove it is directly improving your safety.
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I can do that at anytime, through simple tests and examples, as they have been done throughout time to prove this exact case.
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Chaos said:
If one is simply lucky and never has their home broken into, is never mugged, etc and they don't possess a gun, clearly the gun isn't the factor that changed anything.
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Unless the gun served as a deterrent, which is provable.
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Chaos said:
Citizens without guns who do not end up dealing with crime are the control for this experiment.
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What experiment?
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Chaos said:
Also, guns do not PREVENT crime.
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Guns can help prevent crime as a deterrent.
Being armed and trained with a firearm also can help to prevent crime.
NOTHING prevents crime entirely, and I haven't seen anyone put that forth as an argument.
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Chaos said:
Really it's a matter of where you live (areas prone to crime or not) and luck. The gun is merely a tool that you can use to increase your chance of survival,
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Thank you for acknowledging that obvious point.