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Old Dec 6, 2007, 03:02 pm   #31 (permalink) (top)
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You miss the point.
Did I?

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This person was suicidal.
Yes I know....

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What would have been lost by the first victim being able to give him that wish, BEFORE HE TOOK INNOCENT LIFE?
Well if we hypothetically look at the various angles of this situation.... first your person in question would have to realize this guy was about to pull a gun and shoot everybody before he actually did.

Then you have to put into account if this person would be accurate and effective with his first shot in order to avoid a stray hitting someone else who was innocent and potientially killing them.... this situation was inside a mall with hundreds of other people inside. With no proper regulations or firearm training requirements for people to take, I don't have a lot of faith that an average joe off the streets would become a hero with his 6-shooter.

Then you have to put into account what would occur if he missed the shooter, hit someone innocent, and in turn, more people who own their guns for the right of protection would direct their attention to the two shooters, not knowing who's the innocent protecting other innocents, and who's the guilty one with the death wish.

At the best case in this situation, both are shot to death by other citizens and when the police arrive, then you have a whole other situation to deal with..... two people are now dead and you have a handful of more suspects with firearms who you now have to determine at the time if it was defense or are they the original shooters...... who was the original shooter, why was someone shot and killed by someone who was not the shooter..........

either way, your hypothetical can hypothetically go in all kinds of directions..... none would garuntee more lives would have been saved.

Quite honestly, if I was a shooter bent on taking a bunch of people with me, I'd target anybody who presented a firearm.... armed people would be target number one for me, regardless of my suicidal tendancies. He wanted to be famous, and just killing yourself doesn't make you all that famous unless you take innocent people with you.... it seems to be a fad down there with shooters.
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