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Quote by: xyzer Any idiot can figure out that even an intelligence Guru can change his comments based on later intelligence. Or could it be some partisan intent? Why are we blaming Bush when maybe it's Fingar we should blame? Whats the problem with Bush using the report for his opinions?Where is he supposed to get his intelligence from? Cheneys office? Why is he criticised when an intellgence group changes its estimate a few months later? Does that make Bush a warmonger? Come on you Bush critics..get real!

It does make him a warmonger, as he just blaitently repeated the same proceedures, steps, intelligence, propaganda and screw ups just as he did with Iraq. You would think this moron would have looked a little further into the information this time before shooting off about starting World War Three based on his assumptions of half assed intelligence and accusing another country of doing something that it not only isn't doing, but is in fact doing something that they have every right to do.... seek nuclear energy. But Bush likes to get on his little podium and state his Bull sh*t as being fact....

"We Know they're Building Nukes"

"If Iran doesn't want to start WWIII, they should stop trying to build Nukes."

all based on speculations and assumptions, when clearly all the evidence they have provided thus far proved nothing for their case..... they never had a case to begin with, and now there's further proof they don't.. and he continues trying to explain his way out of it as if so long as he sounds like he believes in what he's saying, so will everybody else.

Come off it, seriously now.

Just one more thing..you babbled about no weapons of mass destruction in Iraq when British intellgence reports were used as an example.

What were those exactly? The sat. shots of the roofs of those hangers or many of those other photos that showed nothing? It doesn't matter where the intelligence came from, they used it and they presented it as their evidence to justify their actions for invasion, and almost did it again.

Hell even I knew they didn't have a case with what they were showing, but once again.... it seems if you explain something as if you completely believe in it, I guess you can fool the masses into thinking it's actually true

Now you suddenly believe in an intelligence report(estimate) that has been changed within a few months?

No, I never believed their garbage from the first moment they presented it, this hasn't changed my views but only strengthened them.

Could it just be that intelligence information is dynamic and changes often? Could it be you are so antiwar and anti Bush that you cant think clearly?

Myself thinking clearly? Maybe you're so blood thirsty and war mongering that you can't think clearly that they have been feeding you baseless propaganda to goto war in the first place.

The fact that they attempted and suceeded the first and second time was sick enough.... the fact that they tried it again after proven they committed an illegal act in the first place in the first situations, is just pathetic.

If any other country was doing this, based on evidence like this, I imagine you guys would be all pissy about the situation much as I am.... but oh... it's gotta be the US and Bush.... so it's either alright for him to get away with this, or he's had a rough go, so let's just let it slide.

Fok that.... hang the bastard.... if you're gonna take the responsibility of leading and running a country and putting the lives of millions in your hands, you had best be prepared to accept the consequinces of your decisions and actions, and thus far, Bush have been given a green light ever since he took power and there seems to be no letting up, even after something like this.

He is proven to have screwed up, and yet he doesn't back down and tried to twist and reword what he has said..... and he just stands there on TV laughing at himself and the questions like it's obvious he's always been right and it's foolish to question him...... he tries to explain and believe in his lies so much to make them almost sound conviencing..... but it's all so blaitently pathetic it makes me sick.....

....and yet, the very next day, everybody in the US seems to forget what has just occured, they forget all the things he has done up to this point and carry on until his next royal screw up, then people start paying attention again..... then he gets on TV, throws out another lame explination for his actions and opinions and everybody shrugs it off and goes about their business......

My god, I feel like puking out of my nose at it all. By the time he pulls his biggest stunt, his biggest screw up, it'll be too late for anybody to really stand up and say "Oh ok, we had enough of this, we're gonna stand up and fight this injustice" Because it's almost already too late.

His views and opinions have not changed, because he's got a bigger plan of something that can not be interupted in any manner by anybody else.... no matter how many people bitch and complain, no matter how much evidence is provided that goes against everything he stands for and is doing, so long as he has the power, he will continue on his path of destruction, murder, torture and unjustified wars throughout the planet.... he doesn't care about the world, the US or the people of the US......

"George W. Bush doesn't like Black People"

And he doesn't like anybody else much for that matter either. He doesn't give a rats ass about anybody except those paying him.