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Had a single one of those students fired a gun, the government would have used it as an excuse to do more damage then they did.
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All the more reason to overthrow those tyrannical bastards.
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The government would have mowed down any resistance with a tank brigade and armed forces and they could also they could justify it to the public.
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Only a public deprived of information, and fed propaganda, as is the case in China.
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A deadly militia bent on undermining the government would have made it seem like a fair fight.
But now the government was shooting up students that couldn't defend themselves, the Chinese government was suddenly the bad guy.
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They were the bad guy long before the Tianamen incident. What about dictatorships and tyranny is not bad?
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A single incident cost China so much in foreign out look and relations and caused an internal coup in the party system.
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Not nearly a large enough coup.... look at your situation regarding individual rights and the control of the press and information.
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The gun doesn't protect you against an armored devision. Your going to need to look for a better weapon against the government.
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Nonsense. Tanks and armor vehicles need refueled, serviced and there are times when people get out of the tanks, just like there are times when corrupt officials leave their offices..... that is the time to strike.
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But a better response is because I'm in the group of people where the second leading cause of death is guns. The age group under 19 before they can develop heart problems, is being eaten alive by guns and drunk driving.
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No, their being eaten alive by irresponsible choices made by individuals, who are subject to punishment for their irresponsibility.
That is the way justice works in a system of objective law with individual responsibility for your actions.
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No, i didn't. You said guns save more people then kill. The stat proved that wrong. Plus, your getting your stats from a strongly bias source, mine is a police study.
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One bias against another bias.....
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The black market is only there because of the ease to get guns in the united states.
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ROFLMAO!!! That is priceless.
There are black market gun suppliers in EVERY NATION ON THE PLANET. Take a tour of third world countries my friend.
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In China, there are close to zero gun homicides simply because they are so strict about it. And don't tell me China doesn't have gangs.
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Chine rules its people like Stalin and Marx envisioned ruling their people.... with an iron boot, and abject use of force bound by no objective law.