[Praxius]

Quote by: xyzer Prax..Your problem is you ignore the evidence and instead hitch you rant to the demagoguery of the anti war crowd. Bush lied! The war is illegal? There were no WMDs..One can't take you seriously because your interpretations of events are so shallow and subjective that they don't indicate you are interested in truth?

There is no other truth at play. All of the above is as shallow and true to the point it just hurts the head.... do you think I'm happy all of this has occured in the last few years of our lives?

If Canada was the one who invaded Iraq and the US didn't join in, as the role reversed and all.... I wouldn't second guess canadian soldiers fleeing across the US border... don't think that my opinions on this situation are unbalanced, because I see this as just as equal to the British Empire deciding to goto war over something stupid and using Scotts and the Irish as disposable foot soldiers to save their british soldiers, for they deemed them more valuable.

In other words soldiers being sent off with the known intnetions that most of them will die for no paticular cause other to benifit the better off..... it was wrong to treat humans like this back then, and it's still wrong today.

It's the Cindy Sheehan type prattle that demagogues like to use. By the way you don't know a damn thing about the military and the seriousness of desertion in time of war and yet you have a conciliatory opinion about the lawbreakers who do it? In wartime desertion has been punishable by death? It's recognized as serious by most nations in the world.

Yeah, so was witch burnings at one time.... in other words it's an arcaic practice passed on from the empires in which you fought so hard to be seperated from, due to their oppression and desire for absolute control.

If you have a truly free country, you won't need to force your soldiers to fight, they'd be willing to die to protect that freedom on their own. A sign that thousands of your soldiers are deserting and who are fully aware of the consiquences, then that should be a sign to you that something isn't right in the fact that they are not willing to lay down their lives for what has been presented to them. If they don't have a level of understanding that their sacrafice of life is worth the objective, then why should they just throw their lives away?

You claim I know nothing about the military, I claim you know nothing about me. I am already aware of the old penalties of desertion and how many would face death.... the Soviets used this practice with great skill during WWII.... you guys haven't even touched their level of enforcement in this aspect.... .when you do, come back and talk to me about enforcement and punishments of death.

I am not telling you how it is, but how it should be.

The war in Iraq was started witn both UN and Congressional approval. Thats the "Correct"way in this country. Legislative law making in a representative Democracy? Bush didn't lie, his statements were made within the confines of oue intelligence estimates and events at the time!

Oh lame as hell.... it's got nothing to do with democracy when you have people in the process who hold powers of veto, because they just defeats the entire process to begin with, which forces the decision to the one person or country with that power.

OOOooo.... technically they approved it.... wow... because as I already pointed out, if they didn't the UN risked dismantilation and the US would have been able to go start the war regardless.

Oh yes, Bush didn't lie at all.... it was only reporting information which he had assurances were to be true....... so instead of actually acting based on evidence, he went to war based on Hearsay.... which is just as damn bad as lieing to the country and the world, as it is clear negligence on his part to be a respectable and responsible leader.

Assurances.... pssh.... yeah I'll buy that for a dollar.

Saddam did have WMD (Chemical and Biological) at the time. We also knew he didn't have an active nuclear weapons program,(And Bush didn't claim he did),the Israelis destroyed that capability in the 1980s!

Oh he did did he? Where's the evidence? Oh yeah... there was none found.... yeah... there's that faith in assurances again

Oh but somehow that became absolute fact in the process of twisting their information.

Like the example I posted earlier about how the US was claiming Iran was training Iraqi insurgents in their country because they captured an Iraqi who admitted to being trained in Syria...... now how the hell did Syria become Iran all of a sudden?

Iraq had also violated its Desert Storm Peace concession and was militarily attacking US Aircraft patrolling the airspace in conformance with the treaty...

That's absolute BS which was also proven above in the UN report I linked.... as they pointed out that US aircraft were continually passing through the designated "NO FLY ZONES" so they had every damn right to shoot your asses down.... and I hope they got a few of you too.

An act of war to us realists.Hussein was a an autocratic butcher who had attacked his neighbors and supported terrorism, even giving rewards to the relatives of suicide bombers? I could go on but I'm sure the truth will as usual bounce off your ridiculous shield of nonsense and misinformation.? I appreciate your attempt at expressing opinions, but they would be taken more seriously if they contained a modicum of truth?

Yeah my shield of links, resources evidence and proof which to you is nonsense..... exactly where is your proof of all your nonsense you have just wasted my time with? Oh yeah, like others, you don't have any.

But I suppose me questioning baseless and inacurate information which appears to have been taken right off the TV and what bush said a few years back, must make me full of nonsense.....