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Old Nov 22, 2007, 10:43 am   #64 (permalink) (top)
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I see no mention of past foreign combatants against America during wartime that have prosecuted their own soldiers for war crimes in your post. None. No mention.
That's because my post was in relation to the US Invasion, my examples are in previous posts, which you have not bothered to read.

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You cannot expect me to respond in full to every single point you make in such long double posts as you have.
Once again you just proved your ignorance.... as they were not double posts, but a continuation of information from the previous post before it.... but you didn't read any of it to know did you? Noooo......

Therefore you have thus proved you are not reading any of the facts and information provided to you to continue this debate, there for your opinions to me are irrelevent and you are wasting my time.

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I don't have time to spend an hour responding to just you. If there is a specific point I missed in retort, please point it out.
All the information is there for you to read, I am not about to baby sit you and carry you by the hand through the information like some child, no offense.... but it's not hard information to wrap your head around.

Gee you don't have an hour to respond decently? I can read all of that information within 2 mins.... wtf takes you so long?

Nothing, because you are lazy in your debating skills. This is not a personal attack, as you have clearly proven this by your own responses admitting you did not even look at the evidence.

You know the funny thing here people?

• I state my opinion on something.
• Someone doesn't believe me and asks for evidence.
• I supply the evidence.
• I am told it doesn't cover enough and that it's not in detail.
• I then supply detailed evidence.
• I am then told it's too long and their too lazy to read it

How pitiful. I am begining to see what others were saying about the level of debate in these forums.

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Iraq was in violation of UN charter by disallowing inspections. Therefor he was deemed as a threat. The basis for the legality of the war is split along party lines and mired in semantics.
Wrong in your details yet again.... provide some sources for once for your wild claims. Inspectors were in his country at one time.... they reported not finding anything of concern, much as they have just did with Iran.... the US didn't believe their evidnece and invaded anyways.

Get your facts straight.

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This is a bias far-left liberal rag. I see no credible evidence that "hundreds of American soldiers are defecting". This is a LIE!
Prove it then..... oh that's right you can't..... because you have no sources for your emotional charges.

The information is all out there for you to read... how about you learn something rather then your typical denials.

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I see no evidence from any other source that this is true.
Oh give it up, seriously.... I see no evidence proving this not being true.... you have these guys as two leading heads in the media over this matter.... I think our government intelligence would know a few things about who's crossing our borders and who's applying for refugee/citizenship/asylm status more then you do.

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Here's some more background to this story;
From an interview with "The Village Voice";April 6th, 2004

Soldiers for moral consciousness; Or poster boys for ignorance?

Ohhhh......score one for the defector. He got a sweet brand new mustang out of this deal. Better head to Canada buddy if you wanna play with your new toy.
Wow, someone buys something with the money they ern.... I never thought that would happen in this world

Perhaps the military shouldn't have attempted to recruit teenagers in the first place who are underager, and who have not had enough life experience to make an informed decision. If I could make decent informed decisions at that age, I wouldn't be stuck in these loans I am in for college, which was a complete waste of time..... Oh but everybody tells you it's a good idea... everybody pressures you into thinking this is what you should be doing.... his father even helped him make the decisions...... yeah.... sounds like he made an informed decision on where his life was going.

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The evidence is mounting against him. It's becoming obvious that he signed up for the $$$$money$$$$, not the duty.
Most Canadian soldiers sign up because of the money as well... many of those fighting over there now signed up because of money.... but everybody has a limit to what money can buy..... and just because someone joins the military based on money and educational promises, doesn't take away from that person, as even the militaries promote this for joining and they know this is an easy way of sucking you in, esspecially at a young age.

Technically he could fight this whole thing because he was underage, and regardless if his father co-signed him in because of his age, he could fight it was pressured and influenced.

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Imagine that. The Army training you to be a soldier. WTF were they thinking?

I think it's obvious that he signed up for a paycheck and reneged on the contract when he learned that he might actually have to man up and be a soldier. Something he signed up for. This is akin to signing a contract to do a job and then running away when it's time to start work.
Have you ever had a job you thought would be good, then realized wasn't for you later down the road and you quit?

Regardless, debating with you further is pointless, because you haven't even bothered to respond to my so-called "Double Post" evidence which basically allowed them a ligitamate defense to refusal of service.

I am not going to repeat anything else further in this matter that you have missed, because I have no reason to repeat my actions several times to get things through your head, because you have no patience in reading what has already been provided to futher educated your stance and possibly strengthen your current position, or even weaken it.... but you have not bothered to add any new information to your personal opinions in this debate, therefore this is a continual loop I am getting out of....

anybody else have anything to say?
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