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Old Nov 16, 2007, 09:40 pm   #45 (permalink) (top)
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We supporters of the 2nd Amendment are hardly in denial.
To the contrary, you're completely in denial. I'm not arguing the constitutionality of the 2nd Amendment for giggles. (although it's hilarious to watch gun loons, who've bullying debaters on this for years, sputter and choke when presented a simple and quite irrefutable argument that I can't believe no one's presented before) I want Americans to get over their sick gun lust and the Dirty Harry mentality that it breeds, and the first step is getting over the idea that Gawd came down from heaven and granted you the right to carry around a deadly weapon. The right to feed your family? No. The right to medical care? No. The right to travel as you choose? No. But the right to carry the means to kill from a distance? Hey, absolutely. That's simply nuts... a perversion of the concept of individual freedom, and the fact we're the most violent, belligerent civilized nation on earth simply bares that out.

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Are you proud of the fact we're a nation of violent road ragers longing to fulfull our violence fantasies? It's because we've been immersed in it and trained to it from our earliest childhood by a culture than glories in gunfire. It's insanity. Jeez, just listen to Osborn and friends who can't wait for a civil war to start, as if it's going to be some made for TV movie they can watch... and maybe -- teehee, giggle -- they may actually get to shoot some anonymous "enemy". Weeeee! V for Victory!!

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If the situation were this cut and dried, we would have nothing to argue and neither would the court.
Brien, every year the USSC rules on constitutional questions... is it a violation of your 1st amendment right to censure what students can advertise in a college newspaper? Is it a violation of your 1st amendment right to stop you from confronting people entering an abortion clinic? etc. etc. etc.

So if the situation isn't exactly as cut and dried as I've described, can you explain why, in nearly 70 years, not one of the thousands of gun control laws that the gun lobby has fought againts tooth and claw has been challenged before the supreme court as a violation of your gawd given 2nd Amendment right to bear arms? I've presented a half dozen lower court rulings from the last 10 years. Why hasn't the gun lobby defended your gawd given rights by appealing those rulings to the USSC?

Because they knew the situation was exactly as cut and dried as I've described, and it was far easier to keep lying to Americans than to actually back up their belief.

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