Thread: No God?
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Old Nov 15, 2007, 04:42 pm   #88 (permalink) (top)
Wol
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Same old nonsense trying to disguise itself as logic and rationality.

First; Design is a human construct. There is no absolute standard for design that is consistent across the universe. Are planets all "designed" the same? Are galaxies? Is a spiral galaxy the standard model of design? Of course not. "Design" is in the eye of the beholder. Our bodies would have to be examples of rather poor design if they were indeed "designed" by a "designer". They are explainable as products of evolution, but not as products of design.

Second and even more destructive to our friend's sermon: If he maintains that each level of complexity demands a more complex level above to have designed it, if he wants to believe that something as complex as a human cannot exist without having been created by an even more complex being, he will have to explain what more complex being than god created god. If complexity demands creation, then a complex god also must have been created.

Street preachers are a dime a dozen, and for the most part that's more than I'd ever pay to listen to one.

This secular sermon deserves a response.
Perhaps God always was. Perhaps God is the Eternal Now. Theists don't have to match wits with or compete for knowledge of the Eternal to understand that we are witnessing a brilliant, ordered universe that transcends the mortal mind; but here it is.
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