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Quote by: FenianKiwi  Winter, I think you're wrong in you statement 'God is the simplest explanation of all.' Any deliberately created system is at it's origin, of necessity, less complex that it's creator; a computer program is less complex than a programmer. Watt was more complex than his steam engine, I am more complex than the guitars I make. If God exists, God must, of logical necessity, be more complex and more highly ordered than the Universe. Since the Universe is infinite, God would have to be more than infinite, an impossibility.
But Lullaby makes a very perceptive point - simple sytems can become more complex (usually through the addition of energy). This strikes strikes me as a blow to Godism, since the Universe would eventually become more complex than God. I'm sure Spinoza would be delighted, but it gives tradtional creation mythology a drubbing.
Another reason God can't be 'the simplest explanation of all' is Occam's razor, which tells us that we should not multiply entities needlessly. An uncaused or self-caused Universe requires only one entity - the Universe. A God-created Universe requires two - the Universe + God. |
Is chaos less complex than the order? Didn't Spinoza agree with Eastern philoosphy that God is the universe? There is no duelism here. Nothing is everything and everything is nothing. String theory is not theism and yet it can be applied to a concept of God.
Who creates who I am? Each day of my life, am I not creating who I am? Kuldeep speaks of consciousness. Am I separate from my consciousness. Is God separate from consciousness? Am I separate from God? If my foot were separate from my body, would it retain its order for long?