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Old Nov 9, 2007, 08:33 am   #17 (permalink) (top)
Athena
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I think we can all agree.. we have abundant evidence that this is true (Simplicity breeds Complexity).

Simple elements =

hydrogen-cyanide

hydrogen-cyanide + hydrogen =

nucleotides =

polynecleotides + evolution =

RNA + (amino acids = polypeptides =) proteins =

DNA

DNA + lipid shells = cells

EVOLUTION

multicellular organisms.. more complex and more complex and more complex..

brains.. imposable thumbs.. eyes.. organs..

=

art.. culture.. philosophy.. religion :(.. science ..

REWIND

Hydrogen and Helium..

intense energy.. =

tons of new complex elements

This world is founded on the principle that simple things become complex. THERE IS NO COMPLEXITY IN THE WORLD THAT DID NOT GET THERE FROM SIMPLICITY. The only argument that can be made against that is that which science is only now embarking.. things like.. "before the Big Bang".

Woah.. what about GAWDS?

To be a god, in my book, you have to create the universe and you cannot be created yourself.

I propose one attribute further.

Why call a simplicity a god? "God" has very unique connotations and I'm afraid many deists elude to those connotations when all they believe in is a simple force behind the curtains.

If you believe in a god.. theistic or deistic.. do you believe it, him, or her to be complex? How do you explain that?


I've never used this argument to this extent.. so I'm sure I'll be able to learn from posters on this thread and refine my argument or ditch it.

When you ask if God is a him or her, you are applying a human quality to God. God is no more him or her than hydrogen.

Nothing is everything and everything is none. String theory theorizes that in the beginning is chaos, and out of the chaos comes order. The concept that is the foundation of democracy is, reason, is the controlling force of the universe. This is not something with human quality. It is the sequence of order. It is not supernatural, but is nature.
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