[Athena]

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QUOTE=Osborn F Enready;450119]You stated Athena: Athena said: Liberty sure as blazes is not having to work 40 hours a week to have a legal place to sleep, food and water. So you tell me Athena, what is the CAUSE of your argument here, to result in this effect?

The cause is a concept of private ownership. Wealth is rarely achieved by hard work, but by ownership, and before a person can own, a person must have wealth. This divides society between have's and have not's; those who are exploited and those who exploit them.

From your arguments, you always seem to blame changes in schooling, neglect of democracy, while entirely disregarding economic policy which DIRECTLY AFFECTS ECONOMIC LIBERTY by affecting the VALUE of your fiat dollar. Read your post, and then my reply again and see if that makes sense to you. SOCIETY is forcing you to work X hours a week to attain fiat money (as opposed to tangible currency) so you can buy what you need. Without society, it wouldn't be required, all that would be required would be your labor, your ingenuity, your ability.

Ah, I think my statement which you quoted is, confronting economic reality. Repeatedly I have said, we have autocratic industry and would be better off if we used the democratic model instead. Now, no one can use the democratic model without knowing what it is, right? That brings us back to education, because we can't know something if we don't learn it.

I have said more then once, we protect property rights, better than we protect human rights.

About our fiat money, I have raised the alarm a few times, that our coins no longer have valuable metal in them, and are as worthless as our paper money. I have said more then once, we protect property rights, better than we protect human rights.

I have gone on and on about the oil/economic crisis. While the lastest economic report is that, we must reduce our standard of living, because we have been living beyond our means too long. This really pisses me off! Greenspan was very blunt about how this unemployment and will be very painful. My family is not among those who have enjoyed the wealth built on bad economic policy, and those of us who live from pay check to check will be hurt the worst by a recession, that could even become a worse depression than the 1930'tys. . We might be facing real survival issues, because of terrible, terrible economic policy. You really got on the wrong person about

entirely disregarding economic policy.

I take economic issues as seriously as life and death.

I think your argument that I entirely disregarding economic policy which DIRECTLY AFFECTS ECONOMIC LIBERTY by affecting the VALUE of your fiat dollar. is an error.