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Old Nov 6, 2007, 11:13 pm   #7 (permalink) (top)
Lullaby Chainer
 
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You described the thinker as not knowing about the subject of its own creater.
No, I haven't.

I said, "He has memories of creating it from nothing. He has the knowledge that he has always existed."


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I think the definition of what defines all powerful is the key. All we have is human interpretation of translated bible texts which we compare to modern day views of the word.
All we can logically assume from the Bible is that God either concludes those things himself or wants us to do so.

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You'd have to find something else god would not know to point at the lack of all knowing. Since we have not even a shred of evidence to even point at a higher than god being he still remains omnicient (I'm sure I spelled that wrong)
It's not about actualities. It's about possibilities.

There may or may not be anything higher than God.

The point is, to be omniscient, the thinker must be aware that if there are things that are unknowable by itself, then it does not know of those things. Whether those things exist is irrelevant. It's the fact that the thinker is aware that it cannot know something: it cannot know if there exists things that are unreachable or unknowable by the thinker itself.


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