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Old Nov 6, 2007, 04:51 pm   #3 (permalink) (top)
FenianKiwi
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Now, let's say god comes to a problem with several choices
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This can't happen. I'll explain as we go.

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He Is all knowing, meaning he knows all possible choices and actions he has.
It also means that he knows, in advance, which choice he will make, and what the consequence of that choice will be.

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He is all powerful, meaning he has the power to carry out all the actions and choices possible.
This is a bit trickier. Apologetics are filled with theologians telling God what he can't do. : )

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And finally, he is all good, which means he will only choose the best possible action, best being of course what he deems as best.
Divine Command Theory is going to get you into trouble, here. If what God deems as best IS best, then moral good is a fiat from God and can have no relation to human beings. If God acts i9n accord with what is already 'best', then morality exists outside God and he is not the source of moral authority. This is why apologists get headaches.

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What I'm trying to get at is if god were to come to a choice he would pick the same choice everytime with no ability to do otherwise.
And if god has no free will, whose to say he is even a conscious entity, can anything be called conscious without the ability to choose?
As defined (omnipotent, omniscient, omnibenevolent) God cannot be a free moral agent, since he knows (and always has known) what he is going to do, what the consequences will be, and the chian of events that lead to the choice ( Thomas Aquinas tried to get round this by claiming that God chooses to forget that he is omniscient.sheesh ). God would be unable to act contrary to his nature, which is another way of saying God cannot act, full stop. But it gets worse...If God knows (and has always known) what choices I'm going to make, then these aren't really 'choices' at all. In a Judeo-Christian context, there are NO free moral agents, merely the illusion of free will.


It is undesirable to believe a proposition when there is no reason whatsoever for supposing it to be true -Bertrand Russell
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