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Quote by: Century 25  Athena.. I have hammered away many times of what a scam our "democratic Republic" is. It is a REPUBLIC.. first & foremost.
And yes.. through science is the only way to live. The "bible" is nonsensical.. riddled with riddles.. rapists & murderers. Why not teach children to live under the clear light of day, un-beset by fables..??
Under a Democracy, we could have been a free country, with equality for all. There wouldn't have been slavery.. forced child labor.. we never would have had "street urchins" or "gutter snipes" as those poor kids were referred to.. And it all continues to this day.. sweat shops, under American buisness' control.. here & around the world.
What a dismal, sick legacy for your "Democratic Republic"  |
Thank you for your willingness to discuss democracy. I guess it is important to clarify that democracy is not the same thing as the United States.
Democracy is an ideology with a set of principles that must be learned to be manifest.
This is a philosophical thread, not a poltical one. I think your arguments, and certainly Osborn's, tip into a political debate, rather than being a philosophical debate. Democracy comes from philosophy and historical experience, and opposes religious truths, or at least questions them. Another source of understanding democracy is the Federation of Six Nations (native Americans), who were
developmentally closer to the first political organizations of the Greeks.
Those coming from an unenlightened, Judeo/Christian/Euro back ground have a difficult time understanding democracy, because their beliefs tend to prevent them from learning something different.
The real question of this thread is how do we determine what is reality and our relationship with reality and each other? Do we do this by studying a holy book with the idea it is the word of God, and everything we need to know is in that book, or by studying nature? Democracy is secular, based on secular philosophy, and depends on studying nature. A theocracy depends on studying a holy book. Which do you think is best?