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Old Nov 5, 2007, 05:12 pm   #9 (permalink) (top)
brien
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We lacked knowledge of any attempt by the japanese to end the war. We prevented massive lose of american life. Many Japanese would have died regardless in a land invasion. The bomb saved more lives than were taken.
This is only partially true. The Japanese wanted a negotiated peace settlement but the terms of the US were "Unconditional Surrender" something the Japanese ruiling elite could not agree to so the US dropped the bomb to force them to surrender unconditionally.

Japan Surrenders, August 10-15, 1945


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JAPAN SURRENDERS
(August 10-15, 1945)
Events: Dawn of the Atomic Era, 1945

Prior to the atomic attacks on Hiroshima and Nagasaki, elements existed within the Japanese government that were trying to find a way to end the war. In June and July 1945, Japan attempted to enlist the help of the Soviet Union to serve as an intermediary in negotiations. No direct communication occurred with the United States about peace talks, but American leaders knew of these maneuvers because the United States for a long time had been intercepting and decoding many internal Japanese diplomatic communications. From these intercepts, the United States learned that some within the Japanese government advocated outright surrender. A few diplomats overseas cabled home to urge just that.

From the replies these diplomats received from Tokyo, the United States learned that anything Japan might agree to would not be a surrender so much as a "negotiated peace" involving numerous conditions
Here is the rub.

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The one possible exception to this was the personal status of the emperor himself. Although the Allies had long been publicly demanding "unconditional surrender," in private there had been some discussion of exempting the emperor from war trials and allowing him to remain as ceremonial head of state. In the end, at Potsdam, the Allies (right) went with both a "carrot and a stick," trying to encourage those in Tokyo who advocated peace with assurances that Japan eventually would be allowed to form its own government, while combining these assurances with vague warnings of "prompt and utter destruction" if Japan did not surrender immediately. No explicit mention was made of the emperor possibly remaining as ceremonial head of state. Japan publicly rejected the Potsdam Declaration, and on July 25, 1945, President Harry S. Truman gave the order to commence atomic attacks on Japan as soon as possible.


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