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Old Nov 5, 2007, 11:03 am   #73 (permalink) (top)
Athena
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If they were proven true....They wouldn't be much of a mystery...... Even if all religion was completely false, I see no reason why the morals it teaches would be useless.... I didn't say the word could not be applied. I said they were not synonyms....Which they aren't. This is a fact you seem to still be having trouble with. More evidence of you generalizing. Phoenix doesn't believe in macro-evolution, but I do. You instantly applied it to every Christian. And then spelled their wrong. Concession accepted.
How about the morality of treating others differently, such as the Hebrews were not to eat food when it could contanimated, but they could give it to someone who isn't Hebrew. Only Hebrews can not be slaves, because of their special relationship with God, but they can own slaves and pass them on to their children. How about a different justice for slaves than for free people, a justice that treats them more like animals? How about having kings and slaves instead of democracy and equality? How about beleiving you can know God's will and do whatever you want on earth, because God ordained it? How about believing that whatever you do is okay, because your God will take care of you as long as you worship him, and this includes killing everyone, every man, woman and children with the misfortune of being on land you want? How about thinking you have a God given duty to make everyone believe as you do, and destroying people's cultures and way of life, such as was done to indiginous people wherever Christianity goes?

Some of us believe the bible teaches wrongly, and a point by point response that makes all these wrongs rights, would be good debating.

Isn't the big disagreement, how things happen? Do things happen because of cause and effect, or do they happen by a God's whim, depending on if He is pleased or not? How we live really depends on how we answer this question, and I think science has proven our lives are much better if we rely on science, verses thinking everything is God's will or caused by Satan and demons. I would not want to return to the witch hunts and division of power during this non scientific period in our history.


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