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Old Nov 1, 2007, 03:44 pm   #61 (permalink) (top)
tivodan1116
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This is true, but as I pointed out in two previous posts, the voting official in NY admitted they don't check the status of voters. If they have a valid license, they are permitted to vote.

If there is a challenge, they are requested to sign an affidavit stating they are legal residents of NY. Then no one checks, according to the official I cited in those previous posts. This is an open door for potential voter fraud on a very large scale.
Then there is already voting fraud going on, and regardless of the outcome of this issue, our elections are void. There are thousands of people living in NY who have perfectly legitimate drivers licenses who cannot legally vote.

I doubt that there is no check whatsoever on the eligibility of people to vote, regardless of what one official said.

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Spitzer also advocates issuing illegals Social Security numbers as well. This is nothing more than his and Hillary's plan to an open a back door for amnesty. Since they couldn't get it done in Congress, Spitzer and Clinton advocate getting it done on a state by state basis. What other conclusion can one draw?
I'm the wrong person to ask, as I favor unlimited immigration and amnesty.

However, I don't see this as a back door to amnesty. Immigration is still the purview of the federal government, which holds the power to grant amnesty. If the federal government doesn't think that a driver's license is credit towards someone getting amnesty, it won't be.


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However, once Spitzer and Clinton open the door for illegals to gain Social Security identification, it would be likely they would qualify the same as citizens to own firearms.
Of course not. Have you read form 4473?
DRAFT ATF F 4473 (5300.9)

A person must be here legally and substantially in compliance with all of the laws of the land to get a firearm, period.


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