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Quote by: rez  LOL. design implies designer. There would be no other reason to think design. |
I don't give a rat's behind about "implies"! Those who promote ID do not go beyond design to identifying a designer because that would require something that falls outside of what they say is science.
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It is the Creationist that thinks the Christian god created teh universe. Then there are other creationists, such as the Chinese folklore creationists and the native american creationists. But, I am sure you don't think they are real just like they don't think your creation story is real.
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Well, at least that there is a specific designer - whether the Judeo-Christian God, various other deities or whatever.
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Please provide these observations. Hopefully your observations are a little different then all the other types of creationists out there.
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If you want THEIR observations, ask them!
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That is because you are uneducated in the field of science.
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Not true.
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It is not a conclusion whatsoever, if you had a basic biology class you would understand that and not even attempt to make such an ignorant comment.
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It damned well IS a conclusion! It's what comes out of the other side after you've done all your observing and hypothesizing and theorizing.
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Thats right, you don't know what "elements" and "molecules" --- like "whatever"....
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And apparently neither does science.
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If you are going to suggest that the current acceptable explanation for how reality works is flawed, then atleast understand what the current accepted explanation is.
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I suggested nothing and you damned well had better knock it off with all this reading into what people write!
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If you can't understand what the current explanation for how reality works, then how can you even understand how your explanation is better? What is it better then? Please provide a clear concise post as to how your explanation is better. What is it better then? Do you even know what explanation you are comparing your explanation with?
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I can only go by what your side is saying. You people are the ones that put forth the so-called "big bang" theory (even though the notion of a bang isn't really accepted in science today): it's up to you to identify what specifically it was that all of a sudden just started expanding. It's up to you to not only identify what it was but also where it came from.