[notworthabean]

They probably dont consider you a freind, have you made your views clear to them?

They know my opinions, our friendship is based other places then politics, usually around a common hobby or intereast (video games, drinking and other normal college passtimes)

People in refugee camps have made fake deeds? and if the paper is dated or found in official state records? Im sure youll find a way it can be dismissed anyway right?

I have no idea, I have never investigated their deeds. But i think at this point this is a matter of politics not private property.

Uh huh, more support for arabs owning the land. good going

Not if you can read.

Still no support here, show me where they were buying land, I really like to see how they bought what is current day israel, this will be a good laugh

Now don't put words in my mouth, i never said they bought what was present day Israel. what I said was land owned by jews pre-1948 was obtained legally via purchase from the owner of the land. Obviously sense then their has been the government aquisition of abanodned land in the war of 1948 as well as government appropraited of land for the normal uses of government.

Israel was barely able to kill civilians for 30 days before it started feeling the international pressure. Not to mention they were flying so high they could barely fire. This will be even worse over syrian air space

Israel was able to kill many hezbollah assholes before the internatioanl pressure (not any military force) forced israel to stop.

Humans cannot be bound by culture or religion, that much is clear, and even experience is difficult. How is a teeny bopper from the US whose main concern is watching the latest episode of my super sweet 16, going to have a similar experience with a palestinian teenager who doesnt have a television.

That was my point,humans are bound into factional groups, not as a whole. The only way humans will ever unite is if whatever messiah people always takl about comes or if aliens invade earth ah la enders game. I dunno which I think is more likley

International law is a propaganda tool? Are you aware what the hell international law is? You want "international law" to have a central government. Ok, and this government would do what? Enforce the law? Why would you want that? Israel would be leveled if international law had a police force.

Yes I am, International law, at its present point, is largely just an excuse for idiots in the UN to abuse whatever country they happen to dislike to please pressure groups. The international law of pre WWI (and evne some post WWI stuff) is fairly reasonable, ie signatories guaranteed that in wars with other signatories they will treat soldiers fairly and will minimize civilian causalities, not raping and plundering etc. but

a) these only applied to signatories

b) they were, in the term of the pirate from Pirates of the Carribean "more Guidelines then laws"

The modern int'l law is unreasonabel and poorly applied.

That siad if there was a fair and honorable int'l force then Israel would not have a problem. The problem is that force doesn't exist, and won't in the near future.

As i said, land grabs arent in style as they were before and during WW2. Also no one is too concerned about tibet because the situation there pales in comparison to invasion that happened before (palestine). Also the tibetians arent resisting in any way shape or form.

1) oh these things go in and out of style do they? Whats in now? prada?gucci?

2) Really? so the systmetic destrcution and displacment of a nation of people (who far outnumber the arabs in israel) with an ancient nation with a history of self governance "pales in comparison" wow you really are blinded

3) So in order to count the tibetans need to strap bombs on their chest? as for not resissting, tell the Dali lama that.

Also the israeli palestinian conflict involves more people, more factions and more states. also the problems arrising from the israeli invasion are many more times worse than the chinese invasion of tibet, occupation, oppression, state terrorism, etc

No, the Chinese invasion of tibet is far worse in terms of opression actually. But You are right in that most of Tibets neighbors won't do much to help. I guess India, when it was facing a flood of tibetan refugees, should have put thme on the border with china, fed them propoganda against china and trained them to blow thesmelves up.

Uh huh, Israel was given arab land and the arabs said no. So Israel took the land anyway? mmhmm and youre telling me youre not understanding this? It ended it the war, yes, so we must be in over time than?

Israel was given goverance over a country yes, it had nothing to do with the exchange of private land ownership, that only happened AFTER the war began.

Sounds like vietnam, howd that go btw?

Could have gone better if LBJ hadn't sucked at running a war. Vietnam was a political rather then military loss as well.

Good thing that hezbollah army isnt arab, or it would ruin your argument, oh and the iraqi insurgents, good thing they arent arab, bogging down a superpower and all, DERRR

Well Hezbollah is Iranian (therefore) persian trained, and the iraqi terorirsts are being turned on by the people they claim to represnt. It seems like all over Iraq the tribal leaders turn on the insurgents. Hmm maybe theres hope after all.

also remember-if the US wanted it could crush the terrorists brutally-they choose not to to look good, not because they can't.

RY conservitive jew, ROFLLLLLLL if you mean Right Wing, then ill have to say ive never met a RW conservative jew who WASNT a religious nutball. and now that i met you, i still havent

RY=Rosh Hashana and Yom Kippuer, it means I go to temple mostly on those days. (ie like 3 times a year). I go the occasional saturday when I have the chance. And "conservtive" In judiasm has nothing to do with politics. There are 3 main sects of Judiasam, Orthodox (the people who take torah the most seriously) conservatives (who believe in moderation/modernization of torah law but still believe it to be important) and reformed (who have very loose and modern interperatatiosn of the law).

Anyway no one who knows me would accuse me of being a religous nutball.