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Hiya Mr.Big.

Methinks you're being somewhat self-serving in your definition of "fundamental human nature". Fundamental human nature also includes the fact that human beings are social animals, and that we have survived and thrived in nature by banding together in cooperative, harmonious social groups. And that, too, is, at bottom, from self interest. It's in our self interest to cooperate with each other, to treat each other in a mannerly fashion, to work for the benefit of the community, etc. etc. Having good manners, for instance, is a self-imposed discipline we place on ourselves for the self-benefit of having others treat us in a similar manner, for the enhancement of mutual cooperation and social harmony that benefits all of us.

Indeed, humans are also ambitious, acquisitive, imaginative, and self-centered, so extreme 'pure equality' driven economic systems like communism will seem restrictive to many, if not most. That doesn't mean that the other extreme -- 'survival of the fittest' libertarianism -- is the answer. Our liberal government evolved because Americans as a group decided they didn't like the robber barons, child labor, company stores and dangerous working conditions of unfettered capitalism combined with the advent of modern industry and technology.

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