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Old Sep 13, 2007, 05:45 pm   #16 (permalink)
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Vietnam, and the result was mass slaughter on an unimaginable scale.
Heh. This didn't seem right to me so I looked it up and guess what? I don't think you can substantiate your clam of "mass slaughter" in Vietnam after the departure of the American invaders.

Let's see you try, dilligras.

And I probably don't need to inform you that there has been a mass slaughter of Iraqis since the invasion and occupation. Maybe about 600k or more. (Johns Hopkins)

You might look at this article if you were unbiased, but I sorta think you won't. Iraq, Vietnam, and the Bloodbath Theory


Then there's this:
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Iraq, like Vietnam, is turning out to be a killing field.

In Vietnam, as we learned in the ensuing years, the mechanisms were many, but the primary ones were use of free-fires zones, where terrified Americans soldiers were authorized to shoot and kill any target that moved, and by massive aerial bombing, most directed at South Vietnamese targets, where villages, towns and cities were completely leveled.

In Iraq, bombing is going on and not being reported. Hopkins claims that 15% of the civilian victims (about 100,000) are caused by US bombs.

56%, however, is reported to be by gunshot wounds. Much of the violence is Iraqi on Iraqi, as anyone watching American media will testify. (Around 13% of the deaths were attributed to car bombs.) But just as much is American on Iraqi. That’s not reported so much.

In the article, US soldiers talk about their everyday encounters with Iraqis. Usually, the American is armed, the Iraqi not.

Several of the soldiers did nothing but late night and early morning raids on Iraqi homes. Soldiers would burst in, Gestapo-style, and roust everyone out, turn the house on end, and often arrest young Iraqi men.

According to interviews with twenty-four veterans who participated in such raids, they are a relentless reality for Iraqis under occupation. The American forces, stymied by poor intelligence, invade neighborhoods where insurgents operate, bursting into homes in the hope of surprising fighters or finding weapons. But such catches, they said, are rare. Far more common were stories in which soldiers assaulted a home, destroyed property in their futile search and left terrorized civilians struggling to repair the damage and begin the long torment of trying to find family members who were hauled away as suspects.

Raids normally took place between midnight and 5 am, according to Sgt. John Bruhns, 29, of Philadelphia, who estimates that he took part in raids of nearly 1,000 Iraqi homes. He served in Baghdad and Abu Ghraib, a city infamous for its prison, located twenty miles west of the capital, with the Third Brigade, First Armor Division, First Battalion, for one year beginning in March 2003. His descriptions of raid procedures closely echoed those of eight other veterans who served in locations as diverse as Kirkuk, Samarra, Baghdad, Mosul and Tikrit.

“You want to catch them off guard,” Sergeant Bruhns explained. “You want to catch them in their sleep.” About ten troops were involved in each raid, he said, with five stationed outside and the rest searching the home.

By such methods are new insurgents created.

But the most disturbing impression left by these interviews is the low regard soldiers hold for Iraqi civilians. All are regarded as potential enemies. While officially the US sets high standards for troop behavior and prosecutes malefactors, in practice, civilians are often killed randomly, accidentally, or intentionally with disregard, and nothing is done. There are no consequences. As a result, there is very little incentive for US soldiers to minimize Iraqi casualties.
The Mechanics of Mass Slaughter « Piece Of Mind

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