[Chancellor]

Quote by: Praxius lol.... I was waiting for this comment.... and is why I mentioned a relation to the other threads in regards to this. Since when has smoking become a privilage as this portrays when many considder it a health hazzard?

When the prisoners became the custody of the state.

We have so many threads here on how we should increase taxes, drop ads, restrict the sales, etc..... but when it comes to prisoners.... it's now a privilage that they are now restricted from?

I don't want increased taxes, dropped advertising, restricted sales, etc.

What kind of logic is this? The Prison gaurds are allowed to smoke, anybody else who works there can smoke, but the prisoners can not?

The logic is that prisoners are prisoners - they're being punished for committing crimes.

What I don't understand is there seems to be a lot of distain for criminals for the sake that they are criminals in jail, and some think they shouldn't be allowed to smoke or do anything for that matter.

I have disdain for criminals regardless of whether they're in jail. And, no, I don't think they should be allowed to have anything beyond their basic needs for food, clothing and shelter.

Priosoners still have some limited rights as humans, and I don't see this as a practical punnishment method for prisoners..... and it's clearly not in view of their health, or this would show they don't care about the health of their gaurds, since they are allowed to smoke still.

Their rights do not extend to being allowed to feed their addictions. Based on your argument, they should also be allowed to have alcohol, cocaine, PCP, etc. in prison. It's bad enough they're allowed to feed their caffeine addiction.

The thing is, smoking is still a leagal practice and these prisoners are not breaking any laws by smoking.... except now.... and most agreed on the law for not smoking inside..... they're complaining about not being able to smoke outside or anywhere for that matter......

Drinking alcohol is also legal, why not let them have alcohol in prison? They're prisoners: being in prison isn't supposed to be comfortable. Goodness, even on Navy ships there are times when smoking is not allowed: why should prisoners be allowed something some of our sailors in uniform aren't?

Physical Addictions are not the best thing to cut off cold turkey sometimes.... and if you got a prison full of smokers who all of a sudden can no longer smoke..... I think that might cause them to be a little more.... um..... short tempered, edgy, etc.

I really don't give a rat's behind about their addictions (by the way, your argument could also be applied to caffeine).

If prisoners shouldn't have anything to do recreationally because they are prisoners as some here commented.... and therefore shouldn't be allowed to do things non-ciminals do.... then why not remove the TV's in the lounges, why not just get back to just feeding them bread and water, why even supply them an exercise court or basketball hoops? Why not just keep them in their jail cells until they served their entire sentance?

Yes, let's remove the televisions, get rid of the lounges, and put them to work.

Plus, this jail in paticular claims that the most of their prisoners are there for minor things and only stay for about three months on average.... so this isn't mostly serious offenders we're talking about.

All the more reason to make it difficult for them: the deterrent factor. Then again, I think that instead of throwing people in prison for relatively minor things, we should employ the Singaporean practice of caning.