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Most Americans are sheeple and don't have a clue about what they want. They like the idea of the government providing all kinds of social programs and creating all these regulations to stick it to the rich and to the corporations. They have this entitlement mentality going on. But in order for government to provide all these things for them it has to violate the Constitution, usurp powers it does not rightly have, and effectively become a socialist state complete with a huge bureaucracy.
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I don’t agree with the conclusions you’ve drawn, but if the American people as a majority wanted that, why do you think they should be forced to live in a system that the minority, you, wants?
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Do we have to address why in a thread about whether tobacco companies should be allowed to give free cigarettes to children? Here's it what it comes down to: the parents brought the children into this world, the parents are responsible for them.
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That says nothing about the rights of the children.
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Obviously it's a wrongheaded view because it's like letting the inmates run the prison. Cambodia (or Laos) tried something like this by putting the children in authority over their parents after the United States pulled out of Viet Nam.
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No, that’s again taking it to the extreme. We’re talking about social services and movie restrictions, not putting children in charge of their parents.
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But regardless, I want to clarify again, that my interpretations are not up for scrutiny. I would merely like people to consider more in depth, an intelligent style of discussion, so we can move the tendancy more towards debate, and away from merely argument.
That you posted it puts it up for scrutiny.
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I was referring to my hypothetical interpretation of what you guys said - something I would hope you guys could do without somebody prompting you - not being up for scrutiny, because it wasn't the point. Of course if I actually state something, it is up for scrutiny, but I put absolutely none of myself behind the interpretations of what you guys might have been saying.
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It's nice of you to make the attempt. Just understand that there is a place for the shorthand of using certain terms in the place of full sentences.
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I understand the idea of shorthand perfectly thank you, but what you were typing that you refer to as ‘shorthand’ was not shorthand, it was just unsophisticated name calling dressed up to look like it was actually debate.
Granted, you guys have progressed your conversation somewhat since I posted, but when I did post, you guys were in the process of an unsophisticated, unproductive argument.