[Praxius]

Quote by: ZNFYRH Praxius There is a difference between educating your child and glorifying those things.

ok, let's break them down, since I have played all the GTA's at least three times, I know every mission and what happens in those games:

Rewarding them for beating the same prostitute that just 2 minutes before they drove across town to protect isn't educating a child.

There is no mission or reward in any of the GTA games that does this.... this isn't even remotely towards the atmosphere in the game.

Even when GTA 3 came out in 3D and the prostitution was brought into the game, there was a big stink about doing this in the media..... and yet, if you ever took the dam time to actually play the game through.... ANY OF THEM.... you'd know there is no such mission in any of the games, therefore this argument is irrelevent.

The closest thing that relates would be the pimping mission in GTA:SA, however you do not harm the prostitutes, you protect them from other idiots like the above you mentioned in the game.

When GTA3 came out.... they showed a clip where a player picked up a prostitute, had sex, got their health up, and when they left the car the player killed the prostitute and took their money back...... The game does not promote this.... the player in question and their own morals do..... that's the key to the game... making your own decisions as to what you do in the GTA world.

Or getting in trouble just to get that really good FBI Enforcer for you garage...

And you expect someone to go out and do this in real life? You expect a child to try and get the FBI after them, just so they can steal a car?

Give your head a shake..... it's a game.... and for what it's worth.... you can also get the same cars by typing in cheats.... without even having to do anything illegal in the game.

Also.... there are many of these cars just sitting around in the game, which are ment to be used in the game.... you don't have to break the law in the game to get these cars.... that's personal decision, not promotion in the game.

Sure kids aren't going to do it in real life, but I'm willing to bet you're white and grew up with married parents in a middle class neighborhood.

Oh I see... you're gonna try and play the race card in this debate..... how pathetic.

You just admitted you agree that kids won't do this in real life..... 1st.... doesn't this dispute your own argument?

2nd.... where the hell does the race card come into effect here?

What about the kids for whom C.J. and Tommy Vercetti are actual heroes and role models?

If you knew the storyline in both games, you'd realise they're not evil bastards as you would like to make them out to be.....

CJ comes back to his family in the ghetto and is quickly thrown back into what he left behind (You can not run away from your past). He came back because his mom was shot in a drive by shooting, if my memory serves correctly. He's continually trying to steer everybody he cares about in the right direction, but those around them endanger their lives and have to survive as set by the rules of the street.....

If you played the game all the way through, you'd realize that CJ stops the corrupt cops who have been fueling the gang wars, he stops the flow of crack and other drugs in his neighborhood, he saves his brother, his community, helps fight against organizations against the security of the US by joining up with G-Man, cracks open many fictional conspiracies and basically becomes an overall hero in the game.

It's not a promotion of that lifestyle, it's shedding light onto something that many like to shut away from society as something that's non-existant, that life is perfect..... well it's not, and perhaps education in this is the best thing to do, so it can be resolved sometime down the road.

About Tommy.... that game was a pretty close cut from the movie Scarface, only Tommy is given a mission in Vice City to start making rounds and income for a larger organization, however he is not aware of that organization taking him over in the end and expresses not to back down to what you feel is right that you have worked hard for in your life.

Each of the GTA games portrays a different lifestyle that is known and common in our society and hits on key social topics that many tend to avoid.

The ratings on those games are there not because they think kids don't know about sex and violence. They are there because a 7 year old doesn't understand sex and violence.

Those ratings are on those games for "Parents" to determine and check to see if the game is appropreate for their child.... if they have played the game before, or know what it is about and they deem their child is of an appropreate knowlege of interpreting the game's messages, then that's their peroggative.

There are no laws out there that will jail a mom or dad if they buy a game not suited to their kids due to the rating.... the ratings are just that.... ratings of average understanding...... Average.... which means it is open to interpretation to each parent.

At 7, you can learn where babies come from. But how do you understand the emotional aspects of sex?

Easy.... you ask.

The physical enjoyment of it?

You Ask.

The consequence of unprotected sex?

You Ask...... how else do you learn things? How else did you learn about these things?

Hell I was taught as a very young age all of this..... and in fact, many kids are still taught this stuff in school at a young age that most would think isn't the time for them, since they are still in their teens..... yet when do you educate your kids on these matters?

That varies from parent to parent and their own values.

As a parent, I feel it's my responsibility for my child to understand all of those things... to educate them when they are actually old enough to understand... before I let them see those things as vulgar entertainment.

When they are "Actually Old Enough?"

How old is that? Please tell me? How long do you expect to prolong their innocence of the world before they have to realize what's around them?

Your children will know when it is time to understand these things, when they begin to ask you questions about them.... if you don't tell them then.... they'll just go and google it. I'd rather inform my children of the truth, rather for them to no rely on me and then go online to find their information.