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Quote by: ZNFYRH  That's part of the reason I wondered what the functional purpose was of the word. The two different "definitions" I've gotten in this thread are:
1. People who agree with / support the government based on information they are given and haven't gotten for themselves.
2. People who are opposed to the government but comply anyway.
Contrary to #1, I have seen the term used for people who think for themselves who decide that they support the government. That makes no sense to me, since they are clearly choosing to follow willingly. |
The term is used here to denote that we think they are "following willingly" out of complete ignorance of the constitution, or it's proper place in the law making process. ( Either due to the press, or apathy )
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Quote by: ZNFYRH And contrary to #2, some of those people comply because they have too much, in their assessment, to lose. |
Aw bunk.
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Quote by: ZNFYRH To me, "aiming at a group of people without regard to their relative intelligence" seems the greater bigotry because it disregards the individual differences. |
It's not an attack on ones intelligence, but rather ones ignorance. The ignorant can blame the press, it's the rest of you that need a damned good excuse for supporting the crooks.
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Quote by: ZNFYRH Coupled with the fact that the majority of people who use the term on VC are Libertarians who use individual differences as one of the reasons for choosing that ideology, I find it, at best, hypocritical for people to use those words for any person who doesn't say they fight against the government.
I emphasize that because it's the quickest insult thrown, here on VC, when someone doesn't jump on the bandwagon and disagree with the U.S. gov't. |
Well, that is your opinion, and I can certainly see how you arrive at that conclusion, but then I think you are on the wrong side of this anyway. So when you catch yourself "self identifying" as one of the people that was aimed at, then enjoy it for all it is worth.
That is the whole point. If you
can find yourself self identifying as one of the people that was aimed at, perhaps it's time reflect on what it is your standing up for.
Are you an American, beholden to the Constitution, or are you an enemy of the people aiming to subvert that very document?
Is your allegiance to political party, and the changing ideologies of those groups, or is your allegiance to the sacred law of the land?
I think I know where both of us fall in regards to these questions, which is why we are always at odds.